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    Kodabromide

    I went and picked up a used D-II from a nearby shop today, along with the purchase the guys let me raid their cache of old papers for free. I snatched up all the AZO I could find, which was an unopened 100 box of 5x7 grade 3, and an unopend 100 box of grade 2 8x10, though probably won't use it for a long time since the largest negatives I have to contact print are only 4x5. They also gave me a huge 250 sheet box of Gaf 7"x15" paper that I have absoluty no use for it it is even still good.

    But of the most interest is the 100 box of Grade 2 8x10 Kodabromide since it is actully enlarging paper, and there are about 4 more boxes there I can take for free if it is still good. Can someone tell me anything about this paper? Does it have the huge shelf life that I hear the AZO has, which would mean I could probably still use it? Does it have a massive tonal range or something that will make me weep tears of joy?
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    Oh yeah, exp 3/78. Any hope?
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    Has the paper been refigerated? If not the Kodabromide is probably toast. That is 26 years out of date. Even refrigerated I would suspect fogging. You might try developer with benzatriazole added. Should help the fog with somewhat of a decrease in speed.

    The Azo should be good. If the Azo is that old then it may be some of the old cadium incorporated emulsion. I have some and it is "far and away" better then the current emulsion.

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    Kodabromide was one of my favorite papers along with Kodak Medalist and Agfa's Brovira and Portriga Rapid. All of them are long gone and I doubt you will be able to use this paper. You might add some Edwal Orthozite to Kodak Dektol mixed 1:1 or even full strength, but don't expect miracles.

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    Kodabromide

    I recently bought some Kodabromide exp '84
    It works fine with little if any fog. Its base colour is a little warm though compared to most. I doubt it was ever refrigerated.

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    Great stuff. I got a box in a similar manner and I like it. This was in Tucson and it was sitting out on a warm shelf. It will show a bit less than pure white, but this is normal for this Kodak paper from what I was told. It was manufactured this way (from what I understand) and never was pure white to begin with. I asked about it at this year's LF conference in Monterey. Good luck, free paper and film are to be used. Mine was a grade 4 which has lost a bit of contrast.

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    I used kodabromide a lot in the early-mid 80s
    I hated the single weight paper (curls a lot) but is a nice paper.

    I guess you have to try and see how fogged it is, some Orthozite or Benzotriazole will help getting the fog down

    Good luck and enjoy it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee Shively
    Kodabromide was one of my favorite papers....
    Mine too.
    It did not have the ultra-white baryta layer that gives "refrigerator white." But is was the coldest of all the papers then available. It tones beautifully in Selenium and gives the most marvelous, museum quality blacks. Some noted hints of green, and it had been panned for this, but Selenium usually cured that. It was very cold with Amidol and less so in Dektol. It warms nicely with Selectol Soft, with almost a full grade in contrast lost.
    As old as yours is, I would hope you could print with it, as you deserve to see what a great paper it was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald Miller
    The Azo should be good. If the Azo is that old then it may be some of the old cadium incorporated emulsion. I have some and it is "far and away" better then the current emulsion.
    Well, the 5x7 box is dated to expire 3/79, but the 8x10 box has no expiration dates on it.
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    back in the early 80s i made a hard cover books using kodabromide single weight 11x14 paper as the pages. i really loved that stuff ( and still use the box for storage of prints ) the mid-tones were really nice. i remember when i bought - the guy at the store said " this is probably the last box you will ever see, have fun with it ... "

    ... "have fun with it" - -
    you might consider using ansco 130 to develop with, i know it reduces fog in out of date fillm - most of my paper is only 10-15 years old, so i don't have experience with *really* out of date stuff

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