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    dectol and film

    There was a paper published in the Journal of Biological Photography some 20-odd years ago where the author made some film/developer comparisons.

    Dektol at about 1:29 for around 20 minutes @20° C gave surprisingly good results with regards to tonal range and fine grain..... even when compared to a couple of 'standard' film developers.

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    Yes, D-72 (Dektol) was once said to be a universal developer for films and papers. For large format it was typically diluted up to 1+7 and for papers 1+2. As I stated in another thread on Ilford Universal PQ these developers become acutance developers at higher dilutions 1+19 or 1+29. There is some grain but it is tight.
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    http://www.apug.org/forums/forum37/3...ilm-paper.html

    lots of us still use paper developers for film ...
    i've been using ansco 130 ( very similar to gaf universal )
    for a long time ... i now dilute with caffenol c instead of water and get great results too

    have fun !
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    Some people also use various dilutions of Dektol (as dilute as 1:40) as a convenient film developer when making masks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jnanian View Post
    ansco/agfa 125 is almost the same as dektol
    they would describe the negatives as "crisp"

    have fun!
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    Have to be careful here as Agfa Ansco (GAF) 125 is quite different to Agfa 125 which is a Rapid document paper developer.

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    Ok well... I got it done. But I jacked up the ratios some kind of stupid. Please make sure you are not drinking any liquids, because I am not responsible for any shorted out keyboards after you read the following.

    Earlier in this thread I read Dektol 1:7 for 7 minutes. So thats what I did. I put one cup of dektol powder in a jug, and mixed it with 7 cups of water. I should have known something was wrong when there were still tiny floating pieces of undissolved powder.

    And then this morning I started looking at the dried negatives thinking they were awfully black. And then it hit me. I needed to dissolve the powder in a gallon of water, and then mix a cup of THAT with 7 cups of water.

    Oh well! I didn't loose anything, but I sure as hell enjoyed the smell of the fixer last night. Brought back so many memories from high school, I nearly got teary eyed.

    I stopped at the camera store this morning and bought some D-76, and some more Kodak Rapid Fixer. I'll pay more attention tonight and mix them properly.

    For now I'm going to go start reading up on the chemistry part.

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    I use Dektol (1 part dektol, 3 parts water) for film and it works fine for when I am going for that old heavy film grain type look. I believe you can find this on the "massive development chart" along with times for some films.
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    Ironically D72 started life as a film developer, it was designed as a High contrast developer for rapid dish processing of Press, Commercial and Industrial plates and films. Only later was it sold as a Universal paper developer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChristopherCoy View Post
    Earlier in this thread I read Dektol 1:7 for 7 minutes. So thats what I did. I put one cup of dektol powder in a jug, and mixed it with 7 cups of water.
    Um, yeah, that won't work, your almost right, the whole bag goes into 3 quarts of water, then dissolve, then top off to one gallon. I always end up with a few "floaties" in my Dsektol that refuse to dissolve.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bblhed View Post
    Um, yeah, that won't work, your almost right, the whole bag goes into 3 quarts of water, then dissolve, then top off to one gallon. I always end up with a few "floaties" in my Dsektol that refuse to dissolve.


    Yeah. I just flat wasn't paying attention last night. It took all I had to compose myself long enough to sit on the dark bathroom floor to load the film onto the reel. I truly cannot express how excited I was to be doing it.

    Second roll tomorrow morning will be better.

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