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    Nice Look With Ilford Warmtone For Portraits

    To all my printer friends , here is a little nugget I just discovered.

    Ilford Warmtone is by and far my favorite paper. But I have never liked the paper toned with sepia.

    I am working on a body of work for a show in Louisville and for the wicked skin tones, glowing silver I use IWT in Dectol 1 - 1:5
    Split prints , choosing the first filter that gives glowing skin and then blast the 5.

    So here is what I discovered for myself.

    scratch sepia toner.

    Part A - potassium ferri and potassium bromide 32 grams each plus 14 litres of water.

    Part B - sodium sulfide and 8 litres of water.

    now the trick.

    5 seconds in part A and then get the stuff off by washing**just enough time to get the bleach on the silver then off**

    10 seconds in Part b and then into the washer.


    give it a try wonderful skin , beautiful blacks and slight warmth in the highlights.

    Oh I am in Heaven.

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    Hey Bob, how much of the sodium sulfide are you using in part B?

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    Sorry I missed that 32grams
    Quote Originally Posted by akaa View Post
    Hey Bob, how much of the sodium sulfide are you using in part B?

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    I should add that I got this formula from Ian Grant, I never discovered this.

    Just the 5 second in week bleach bit.

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    Thanks for the tip. Do you know if this is an archival, ie stable, process? Was wondering if the tones will change over time.

    Jon
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    Absolutely, Tim Rudmans book on toning recommends a sepia and selenium tone for archival prints.
    I am just backing off the length of time for bleach.... I use cold tone papers for this very purpose but IMO the Ilford Warmtone will
    give me a better tonal range every day of the week.

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    Bob, Are you also selenium toning afterwards, and if so what dilution as a starting point would you suggest?

    Looking forward to seeing your prints in Oct!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Carnie View Post
    Absolutely, Tim Rudmans book on toning recommends a sepia and selenium tone for archival prints.
    I am just backing off the length of time for bleach.... I use cold tone papers for this very purpose but IMO the Ilford Warmtone will
    give me a better tonal range every day of the week.
    Hey Bob,

    Again you're getting my interest with the color of B&W prints.

    I spent plenty of time prepping my 2011 shows in various toning regimes, not sure I ever was able to repeat from one print to the next but I am interested in most anything you suggest with regard to printing.

    I had been using Pot. Ferricyanide and KBR as the bleach but am using a Thiocarbide toner rather than the sulfide which can fog light sensitive materials.

    Are you doing that step in an area where the fogging is not an issue?

    Hope to see the prints in Louisville, Steve
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Carnie View Post
    Absolutely, Tim Rudmans book on toning recommends a sepia and selenium tone for archival prints.
    I don't have the book in front of me, but I seem to recall the archival benefits only occur if the toning is to completion. I do short bleaching/toning, but I always refix afterward. Is that not necessary?

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    Quote Originally Posted by eddie View Post
    I don't have the book in front of me, but I seem to recall the archival benefits only occur if the toning is to completion. I do short bleaching/toning, but I always refix afterward. Is that not necessary?
    Only if it's just Selenium. You are taking a risk to ruin the print with your refix. And you waste a lot of water to do so.

    On Bob's case this is the most archival. Sepia then selenium is hard to beat.

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