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    Rodinal Availability

    06 Nov 2011

    I know Agfa "died' several years ago, and with it many good papers and chemistry. However I heard that someone had purchased the formulation to Rodinal. Is it still available? If so, where and under what name? If not, any suggestions of an equivalent developer would be appreciated. My current developers are D76 and HC110.

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    Unfortunately John at J&C tried to pass off Calbe RO9 as genuine Rodinal by selling it packaged to look like the much later Agfa version, Agfa had neglected to keep the Trade Mark name registered it's now owned bt John.

    This deciet has meant that no-one can now use the name, hence the confusion. It's also sold as Blazinal.

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    Darwin,

    Agfa is not gone. "Only" their consumer branch (with those materials most known to Apuggers) went into oblivion. They are still offering films, paper and chemicals.

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    There are several versions on the market, and other threads here about that. Some are older formulations of the the Rodinal formula and some newer ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger Cole View Post
    There are several versions on the market, and other threads here about that. Some are older formulations of the the Rodinal formula and some newer ones.
    No there are only 2 versions on the market.

    Genuine Agfa Rodinal as made fom the mid 1960's when the formula was changed at the time of Agfa's merger with Gevaert. This has an excess of Hydroxide and a higher pH and is now sold as Adonal, Blazinal. RO9 One shot etc but it's all made by the same factory.

    Then there's the former Agfa Orwo version made by Calbe which uses a pre WWII Agfa formula, has a higher p-Aminophenol content but no free hydroxide and so a lower pH. this is sold as Calbe RO9, APH09.

    The problem is that the two versions don't behave quite the same. many German and Continental EU photographers prefer the older version which is why people like Mirko ant Fotoimpex sell and distribute both.

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    Ian,

    John at J&C seems to have disappeared from photography all together as far as I know. Perhaps a case for Paul Temple...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Kershaw View Post
    Ian,

    John at J&C seems to have disappeared from photography all together as far as I know. Perhaps a case for Paul Temple...

    Tom
    I think Agfa threatened a major lawsuit which they'd have won, you can't pass a product off as something it isn't. You'll see J&C's packaging has the same colour scheme, pretty much the same Rodinal type face etc, I doubt Calbe were very impressed either. Then J&C also sold a lot of dodgy EFKE materials, essentially substandard with coating defects as well as miscut chinese LF films that wouldn't fit DDS. All in all not really a company you'd want to trade with.

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