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    tmax 400 and xtol

    I was in chicago this weekend and I shot some tmax 400.

    I exposed it at 400 and when I got home, I developed it in xtol 1+1 at 68 for 8 minutes.

    It is super grainy. What happened? Is this normal?

    Examples to come soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by david b
    I was in chicago this weekend and I shot some tmax 400.

    I exposed it at 400 and when I got home, I developed it in xtol 1+1 at 68 for 8 minutes.

    It is super grainy. What happened? Is this normal?

    Examples to come soon.
    David,

    I shoot this combination all the time and love it. Never had any problems with it being "Super Grainy".

    I'm not sure what caused it.

    Both my 120 & 35mm are developed 1:1 @ 75d for 5:30 in a SuperSidekick (Like Jobo) processor.

    I DO NOT "Pre Wet" the film using TMAX 400 @ XTOL. I read on Jobo's web site that you should not do so.

    Those who have seen my prints from the exchanges can tell you they exibit virtually no grain.

    Jim
    "You miss 100% of the shots you don't take"...Wayne Gretzky

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    are you using xtol 1+1 ? great shot, btw.

    also, i shot 6x7.

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    Jim, I did pre-wet. I did use a jobo 1540 tank. I did 2 rolls at the same time.

    500 ml xtol + 500 ml water.

    I wonder if my thermometer died?

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    Quote Originally Posted by david b
    Jim, I did pre-wet. I did use a jobo 1540 tank. I did 2 rolls at the same time.

    500 ml xtol + 500 ml water.

    I wonder if my thermometer died?
    David,

    Here's a link to the JOBO web site information.

    It does say "A prewet is NOT RECOMMENDED with Xtol Developer."

    http://www.jobo-usa.com/bulletins/xtol.htm

    I'm not sure if that would have caused your problems though.

    Jim
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    Well, I have been pre-wetting all along but will try it without it next time.

    Also, I shot some very expired TMY at 1600 and developed 1+1 and those negs have finer grain than what I just developed.

    I don't get it.

    Thanks for all the consideration.

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    How careful are you about the temperature of the subsequent stages? Could there have been a dramatic temperature change during washing, for example?

    Best,
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    I am very careful with the process. Does the final wash have anything to do with grain? The water is coming out of my tap at 60 degrees now.

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    I've found that the temperature of the water has an effect on the graininess (appearance of grain), most definitely. Washing in untempered water can cause problems - if not obvious, classic reticulation then mealy graininess.

    Do you use running water? If so, you might consider switching to five or six changes of tempered water.

    Best,
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    If your stop bath, assuming you use stop, was too hot it might have caused reticulation...? Sounds like an awkward problem. -Grant

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