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    Ilford PanF50 in HC-110

    I seem to have messed up a Panf50 film in Tetenal Ultrafin. Did 1:20 for 8.00min, like described on Tetenal box.

    Can someone help me with a PanF50 in HC-110? Can't seem to find it in the Mas Dev Chart. Dilution b.

    Thanks.

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    A few tips and not so much tips (like "use my sort of super-brew instead") in this thread:

    http://www.apug.org/forums/forum37/1...-hc-110-a.html

    and some more here: http://www.jasonbrunner.com/hc110.html
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    That's the problem with most of these threads. Some asks for recommendations for film X and dev Y, and learns he should be using films A and B together with dev C and/or D instead. Sure, HC110 is loved by casual users for its ease of use and its long shelf life, but I refuse to believe that it is a bad developer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rudeofus View Post
    That's the problem with most of these threads. Some asks for recommendations for film X and dev Y, and learns he should be using films A and B together with dev C and/or D instead. Sure, HC110 is loved by casual users for its ease of use and its long shelf life, but I refuse to believe that it is a bad developer.
    I don't think that anyone has said that HC110 is a bad developer, but there may be more suitable developers for Pan F.

    Maybe a Google of HC110 will turn up some info. or go to Kodak or Ilford photo.

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    The times I have are:

    ISO 50 dil. B 4:00
    ISO 50 dil. E 5:30
    ISO 50 dil. F 9:30

    I'm not sure where I got these, but probably from the PanF+ data sheet.
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    Looks like you developed a tad long with ultrafine, massive dev chart states 5.5 minutes with that film for 1:20.

    http://www.digitaltruth.com/devchart...fin&mdc=Search

    Make sure you make your dev correctly (use a syringe) and measure the temp correctly as well (digital thermometer, it doesn't have to be very expensive) .
    For 500ml total dev, you need 500/20 +1 => 23.8 ml ...say 24ml of tetenal ultrafin for 1 + 20 dilution, this is hard to measure without a proper syringe. For these short dev times, a little off here and there can create pretty drastic shifts I would suppose.

    I have hc 110, but I haven't tried it yet, as I am currently trying out one dev on a few selected film types, to see how they look.
    My experience so far with ultrafin and contrasty films, is that if you overdevelop by a few percent, your highlights to bye-bye in a flash, panf+ is pretty contrasty afaik.

    Edit: Found a thread on flicker concerning Panf and hc110: http://www.flickr.com/groups/7207885...7607470544788/

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    Well, I usually stick to one developer for all my films and at the moment it is HC-110. I tried this Tetenal Ultrafine, cause I couldn't find the correct values for Panf50 and HC-110 on the dev charts, maybe I wasn't looking in the right place.

    Anyways, I think I have enough info now to do the next roll with HC-110 with correct measurements. I use temp and all that stuff, so I stick to quite a steady and scientific ;-) workflow.

    I have some Rodinal here too, maybe I try one of the rolls with that too and I have something to compare.

    Anyways, on the Tetenal Ultrafine bottle its says: 1+20 for 8:00 minutes, I am pretty sure I read it correctly, but it didn't turn out like it should. Temp was 20c, etc, did the whole shake and agitation ritual like I always do, but this one got messed up a bit. Better luck next time

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    How did it get messed up?

    Often times, problems with film developing is due to user error, and not the materials.

    Please describe exactly what went wrong with your film.
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    Thomas, I was testing a Rodenstock Trinar f6.3 / 105mm, it's a classic 1920 camera. Technically it is in good shape, at least, I did not see any light leaks.

    I was shooting night pics in the city here in The Netherlands. It is a low light environment with little shops everywhere, just the old center of the city. It has normal city lighting and lighting from the shops.

    When I scan the negatives it looks like it has an extreme light trace all over them. The result looks like if you would have a b/w image in say Photoshop and then pull the mid grays to the left, so make everything lighter. Not sure if I can link an image here, but I put one of the scans (not editted) here:

    http://i42.tinypic.com/10y4evo.jpg

    Maybe it could also be the light surrounding giving this effect, I worked with long shutter speeds. f16 for about 30 seconds on this one. It's like fog or oil on the lens....Around me (where I was standing) there where city lights.

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    Looks like light going trough the film and being reflected back again, I just red a thread on here about this effect with long exposures.
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