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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Grant View Post
    It isn't a problem at all, I never use a pre-soak with B&W films and have used a lot of Fomapan 100 & 200 in replenished Xtol and Pyrocat HD.
    Thanks, Ian. That was precisely my point in posting the question. I could never understand the obsession with removing the antihalation dye, as there is seemingly no benefit to doing so.
    It doesn't seem to make any difference at all.
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    I guess the only real benefit of presoaking would be to control temperature, which is what I do it for. Plus it looks really cool when you pour out that green-blueish stuff. On a side note, Fomapan never curls with me, it dries very flat when I hang it to dry.

    Is there any other developer than Pyro with hardening properties? I really love Fomapan, but I've almost given up on it because of the scratches.
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    Quote Originally Posted by waltereegho
    I guess the only real benefit of presoaking would be to control temperature, which is what I do it for. Plus it looks really cool when you pour out that green-blueish stuff.
    Tempering the tank makes sense. My darkroom is about 60*F in the summer and 45*F in the winter, so I use a water bath for my stainless steel tank AND the chemicals to bring them all to temperature before I start the process.

    Quote Originally Posted by waltereegho
    Is there any other developer than Pyro with hardening properties? I really love Fomapan, but I've almost given up on it because of the scratches.
    Caffenol. I know it's tanning, but not sure whether it hardens or not.
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    Thanks for all the info guys I think I will "bin it!'.
    One way or another I have been involved in photography for over 50 years, that's when I started in 1959 working in Dufay colour film factory/laboratory . Now retired but when earning the dollar I was part owner of a very small colour lab printing for just a few of WAs commercial photographers, also have worked as the darkroom technician for a couple of top photographers (Boy I sound like a real big head). So over the years I wouldn't have a clue how much film has been through my hands.... But I reckon that batch of FOMA must rank along with some of the crap that was being made in the Soviet Union back in the early 60's. Colin

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    Hello Thomas;
    I run a tank system, use replenished D-76 and fixer until exhausted. Just do not like the color contamination, Steven.

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    Justprocessed a roll of a later batch.. no problems the results where great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snederhiser View Post
    Hello Thomas;
    I run a tank system, use replenished D-76 and fixer until exhausted. Just do not like the color contamination, Steven.
    Please forgive me for being blunt, but that's a reason I cannot comprehend.
    The job of your developer is not to look nice, it is to develop your film properly. Why does it matter what color it is?

    To ColRay - glad you had some good results finally! Let's hope it continues.
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