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    WTB: Schneider 210mm f/5.6 Super-Symmar XL

    If anyone is looking to sell one, please let me know. Thanks!

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    Oohh... that'll be a tough one to find. Good luck though.

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    There's a Sinar-select 210mm SA on the other LF forum at the moment. Lot cheaper (albeit also a lot bigger) than the SSXL, but you're (hopefully) not after either lens for small formats...
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    I don't know if it's the same lens or if it would work for you but I have a 210mm Caltar II lens in the ads on this forum. I believe the Caltar is made by Schneider. Take a look, thanks, Bob.

    http://www.apug.org/forums/forum379/...ml#post1676218
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    Quote Originally Posted by nanthor View Post
    I don't know if it's the same lens or if it would work for you but I have a 210mm Caltar II lens in the ads on this forum. I believe the Caltar is made by Schneider. Take a look, thanks, Bob.

    http://www.apug.org/forums/forum379/...ml#post1676218
    Thank you. That Caltar is lacking the coverage I'm looking for though... The 210mm SSXL has a 500mm image circle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LJH View Post
    There's a Sinar-select 210mm SA on the other LF forum at the moment. Lot cheaper (albeit also a lot bigger) than the SSXL, but you're (hopefully) not after either lens for small formats...
    I thought the SSXL was bigger than the SA (f/5.6 vs. f/8). Am I wrong in thinking this? I think the SA is heavier by 2 lbs though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcc View Post
    I thought the SSXL was bigger than the SA (f/5.6 vs. f/8). Am I wrong in thinking this? I think the SA is heavier by 2 lbs though.
    The SSXL is faster (as you mentioned); however, different designs allowed the SSXL to be lighter than the SA.

    I don't know what you are going to use this on, so be sure to check the fall-off for these lenses. From memory, the SSXL does suffer from more edge fall-off than the SA. So speed differences will be rendered moot if you need to add a CF to compensate.

    Won't be much of an issue if you're only going to be using this on a small format (for the image circle) like 8x10 unless you're intending to use MASSIVE rise/fall/shift.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcc View Post
    I thought the SSXL was bigger than the SA (f/5.6 vs. f/8). Am I wrong in thinking this?
    Here are the specs:

    Front mount diameter
    SA 140mm, SSXL 140mm

    Rear mount diameter
    SA 125mm, SSXL 75mm

    Overall length
    SA 169.5mm, SSXL 120mm

    Weight in shutter
    SA ~3000g, SSXL ~2000g

    Overall, the SSXL is smaller and lighter. The other distinctive aspect of the SSXL is that its design is quite lopsided - very large front cell, pretty small rear cell. The SA is better balanced, at the price of being larger and heavier overall. There are many cameras, even 8x10's, that the SA simply won't fit, because the rear cell won't fit through the front standard and/or the weight is just more than the front standard can bear. What camera are you planning to use the lens with?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oren Grad View Post
    Here are the specs:

    Front mount diameter
    SA 140mm, SSXL 140mm

    Rear mount diameter
    SA 125mm, SSXL 75mm

    Overall length
    SA 169.5mm, SSXL 120mm

    Weight in shutter
    SA ~3000g, SSXL ~2000g

    Overall, the SSXL is smaller and lighter. The other distinctive aspect of the SSXL is that its design is quite lopsided - very large front cell, pretty small rear cell. The SA is better balanced, at the price of being larger and heavier overall. There are many cameras, even 8x10's, that the SA simply won't fit, because the rear cell won't fit through the front standard and/or the weight is just more than the front standard can bear. What camera are you planning to use the lens with?
    Arca Swiss 8x10. Also, yes on the massive movements.

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    Perhaps look at the Computar/Graphic Kowa 210mm? MUCH cheaper and MUCH smaller. Just over a stop slower than the SSXL, but I don't think it makes much difference. Image circle is smaller, but it'll still be hard to edge it on 8x10.

    Then there are the 210mm process lenses (Agfa, Konica etc); however, they're difficult to mount in to a shutter.

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