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    the kodak is a beautiful lens,
    often times sellers have no idea it never had a front element
    and they sell it as "incomplete" ... so keep an eye out

    barrel lenses were often times the norm in a studio setting
    often times photographers had a packard shutter, either one
    with or without a flash sync.

    i worked for a lady who was using a packard, sync'd for flash
    in the 80s ( she was in her 70s ), she was using a barrel- lens,
    and used a barrel since she began her studio ( in the 30s ) .

    have fun finding and using ur lens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luvcameras View Post
    its not a ridiculous price from a collecting standpoint
    You are quite right - the price is what someone will pay, there is no intrinsic worth. Though, being in the throws of disposing of a collection, I could also say all prices for collectibles are ridiculous.

    But as a lens to take pictures with...

    I can buy a similar lens from Surplus Shed for $7 to $25. The $7 one is sure to have more 'character'.

    What would be the market for a modern copy? What price would people pay? There is no 'magic' to lenses. Given the design information - glass types and radii - a copy can be made that can't be told from the original.
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    PS - the lens is actually $ 499 USD ( $ 600 AUS ), which I feel given its condition is actually a good price for the lens. I am actually contemplating buying it myself, but I dont shoot LF!

    As reference points, here are some other recent pricing on SF lenses

    Prices realized (Spring 2010) on various SOFT FOCUS LENSES:

    Pinkham/Smith VQ # 3... $ 4,550 (Ebay)
    Pinkham Bi-Quality... $ 4,200 (Ebay)
    Pinkham Bi-Quality... $ 2,500 (Private Sale, fair condition)
    Dallmeyer-Banfield 22"... $ 1,800 (Ebay BIN)
    Eidoscope # 2... $ 1,526 (Ebay)
    Cooke Series VI 13"... $ 1,490 (on Ebay BIN/BO, not sold)
    Cooke Series VI 16"... $ 1,485 (on Ebay BIN/BO, not sold)
    Plasticca Serie B 450/4... $ 992 (Russian Auction Site)
    Wollensak Vitax 16"... $ 899 (Ebay,Black)
    Goerz Hypar 12"... $ 855 (Ebay, no flange)
    Graf Variable 14"-16"... $ 786 (Ebay)
    Wollensak Vitax 16"... $ 688 (Ebay, Brass)
    Wollensak Verito 8"3/4... $ 621 (Ebay, in barrel)
    Dallmeyer 2B... $ 600 (Ebay, black)
    Cooke Series II 10.5"... $ 483 (Ebay)



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    Quote Originally Posted by paul ewins View Post
    To expand on what Eddie said, you will get what you see in the picture, .
    hmm - maybe, but I have once bought a "mint condition" Bergheil with a long description of the Heliar that turned out NOT to be on the (Not so mint - rather worn) camera.

    his images might show what you get, but he surely needs a short course in taking better images!

    beware...

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    Taking better images would hurt his sales I think. On the other hand the most recent thing I bought was a couple of lenses in non-functioning shutters (his description). The compur shutter on the late 60's 90/6.8 Angulon was obviously missing parts, so more than just non-functioning. Strangely he didn't bother naming the other lens, an 80/5.6 Symmar in the title, just calling it a Symmar 6x6, 6x7, 6x9 lens. That one really is rare. The pair of them cost me AU$160 so I'm not complaining.

    He has been trying to sell that 12" Kodak for a while now.

    Dan - as a counter point I have just received a 14 1/2" Verito that I bought on eBay for $250. It's got one loose leaf in the studio shutter, but otherwise is fine and included the flange mounted on a 6" metal board. That was a US based auction with good pictures and a correct title so it's not like it was a hidden gem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paul ewins View Post

    Dan - as a counter point I have just received a 14 1/2" Verito that I bought on eBay for $250. It's got one loose leaf in the studio shutter, but otherwise is fine and included the flange mounted on a 6" metal board. That was a US based auction with good pictures and a correct title so it's not like it was a hidden gem.
    A Verito at $ 250 is the exception these days, not the rule..

    Click here to see the last 5 that have sold, which average about $ 500. http://completed.shop.ebay.com/i.htm...c0.m283&_rdc=1

    Your purchase is also listed in this group and states the lens has scratches and marks - this is likely the reason it sold at such a discount.

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    Dan, it's definitely not pristine but a couple of scratches on a soft-focus lens is hardly the end of the world. I think what I'm getting at is there are collector prices for the nice looking stuff and user prices for the rest. I always assume that something bought from our friend in Sydney is user-grade and pay accordingly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paul ewins View Post
    a couple of scratches on a soft-focus lens is hardly the end of the world..
    Agreed; I was just highlighting why it sold for 1/2 of what the Verito usually sells for...

    Cheers,
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