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    FS Welta Weltur 6x9 Folder rangefinder camera

    FS Welta Weltur 6x9 Folder rangefinder camera, Carl Zeiss Jena Tessar 105mm
    Compur-Rapid shutter f4.5 – f32; T, B, 1- 400, 120 film, 6x9 – 8 exposures
    Included: leather camera case, four slip on filters with leather case, slip on lens hood and leather case.
    $400 to me, plus shipping from Zip 44210, plus Paypal 3% .
    Paypal as a gift has no 3% fee. US Cashier’s check or postal money order welcome.

    In its day, the late 1930s, this was considered a high quality German rangefinder travel camera, a pocket camera, that produced eight 6x9cm negatives from 120 roll film. 6x9 is an enlarged version of the 35mm format, that gives the tremendous detail of medium format film. That quality has only improved with modern film.

    In reality we are talking about a jacket or coat pocket. Folded the camera is small, but it does require a good size pocket. Weight 830 grams – 1.82 pounds. Width closed 6.5 inches, including hand strap 6.75 inches. Height closed varies from 3 inches to 4.125 inches. There is an easy to read depth-of-field scale on the top plate.

    Included: Printed directions with images on how to open and shut the lens/bellows. Text of factory manual in German with English translation. When I bought this from Jurgen (certo6) I asked for an instruction manual. He laughed.

    The last version of this camera had a finder mask which could be changed in aperture size to 6x4.5cm for 16 pictures. This mask is missing, as is the case with most of these 6x9 cameras. You will be shooting 6x9 with this camera unless you make a mask. My thought was why go to a MF camera if I was only going to shoot just a bit larger than 35mm.

    This has a coupled rangefinder, which means you compose and focus through one window, adjusting the focal distance with a knurled knob on the bed under the shutter and lens. Focal range is from 4 feet to infinity. Many folders require two windows to compose and focus and some folders require estimating distance to subject and manually setting the distance.

    Film frame number is read through the right of two red windows on the back of the camera. There is a vertical metal slide protecting the film from light when you are not looking at the number. The left window is for 6x4.5cm.

    I bought this camera from Jurgen of certo6 fame four years ago. My decision was based on having the best focus view in the highest quality camera. At my age (74) I am having trouble focusing smaller cameras.

    Jurgen’s description of the Welta Weltur
    “Here’s a camera I really like, and like to shoot… whether in 6×9 or 6×6/6×4.5. Ironically, the best ones were made before WW II. They are fitted usually with Compur or Compur-Rapid shutters and usually carry Zeiss Tessars or Triotar lenses, both exceptionally good.
    Being a pre-1949 camera it also means that the lenses are uncoated, which is NOT a big concern, especially if you are shooting B&W. But even with color, I noticed no lack of brilliance or contrast… you gotta use a lens hood! In fact, check out the boat picture by the Weltur 6×9 w/ Triotar lens. I enlarged this to 24×30 and hangs in our breakfast room. Really awesome results!
    The Weltur cameras are unique in that they have an excellent coupled rangefinder which moves the whole lens assembly to focus, not just the front element. Everyone who has used this camera has praised its design and optics. It is “pre-war German quality” – an easy match for Zeiss or anyone else. Unfortunately, the Welturs were not made after WW II and Welta quality was not quite as good as before.” http://www.certo6.com/cameras/welta-weltur
    Weltur 6x6, 6x4.5, 6x9 (rare, but SUPER quality!!) http://www.certo6.com/purchase

    Miraculously for a camera that is nearly 80 years old, the leather cover is in excellent condition. There are very few small marks on the metal. Almost everything works as it should. All shutter speeds work, except it will no longer go to B or T. Some times when you open the bellows and lens the tiny metal leaf of the shutter lever does not go in place. The shutter can be clicked with either the lever or a cable release. It is simple to reopen the lens/bellows and put the lever in place for additional shots activated by the button on top of the camera. See picture.

    For those that don’t know me, I am John Powers: 565 posts LF Forum since April 2001; JP80874 on Apug 3,670 posts since July 2004; JP80874 on eBay 851 transactions, 100% positive feedback.

    Thank you for your interest and looking.

    John
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    i have the 6X6/6X4.5 version of this and it is marvelous, still a reliable user. The one oddity is the left-hand shutter release, which means you focus and shoot with the same hand, but one quickly learns that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by summicron1 View Post
    i have the 6X6/6X4.5 version of this and it is marvelous, still a reliable user. The one oddity is the left-hand shutter release, which means you focus and shoot with the same hand, but one quickly learns that.
    Thank you for your comment summicron1.

    The beauty of that is you have a choice. You can press the shutter release on the body with your left hand or press the lever at the shutter with your right hand.

    How old is your your 6X6/6X4.5 version, pre or post war?

    Thanks,

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    pretty sure it is pre-war--- uncoated lens, haven't run the shutter serial number but I'd guess late 30s. I found it at a thrift store, to be honest, but I could tell whoever had owned it previously had taken good care of it -- recently (within the last decade or so) serviced, all clean and well-running. All I had to do was put film in it.

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    pretty sure it is pre-war--- uncoated lens, haven't run the shutter serial number but I'd guess late 30s. I found it at a thrift store, to be honest, but I could tell whoever had owned it previously had taken good care of it -- recently (within the last decade or so) serviced, all clean and well-running. All I had to do was put film in it.

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    Sold pending payment.
    I got two requests to buy, 26 minutes apart.
    Thank you all who were interested.

    John
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