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    With KEH selling a bargain condition XPan body only for $1035 and Colin's price of $1800 for a near mint body AND a near mint 45mm lens, I'd say it's a fair price. If I had the dough, it would be mine. KEH is considered a good standard to go by for used gear prices. I never understand why the so called hasselblad experts think selling something for a fair price is objectionable. XPAN's are quite hard to come buy in good shape anymore, so why sabotage someone selling this gear? If it's too pricey, don't buy it or offer unwanted advice that will put others off. Get over it.
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    When you post anything in a public forum, you're open to criticism and discussion. This is overpriced, telling people to 'enjoy their coffee' isn't going to magically sell this.

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    I would be interested if it was an Xpan II and if I had the money which doesn't help. Problem is that so many think that the cheapest they see something sell on fleabay is what its market value is. Well thats just the cheapskate market value.
    I tried selling a camera on fleabay but put a sensible starting price and there were no takers. So I wrote a little web page for myself and advertised it there. It took a few months but I eventually found a serious buyer who knew its real value and not the cheapskate price. But if you want to sell it fast then you have little choice.

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    Do you listen to yourselves? Colin is just trying to sell a camera that he no longer needs. He's asking a price that he thinks is fair. If you don't agree - why do you have to speak up? It's none of your f-ing business what price he wants to sell the camera at. If somebody wants to buy the camera at the price Colin is asking, they will show up. If not - you know the rest. Either Colin lowers the price until it sells or he keeps it. That part will take care of itself, with or without your help.

    Just because you CAN comment on it, and no matter how much it's itching your ego to do so, it doesn't mean you SHOULD comment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thomas Bertilsson View Post
    Do you listen to yourselves? Colin is just trying to sell a camera that he no longer needs. He's asking a price that he thinks is fair. If you don't agree - why do you have to speak up? It's none of your f-ing business what price he wants to sell the camera at. If somebody wants to buy the camera at the price Colin is asking, they will show up. If not - you know the rest. Either Colin lowers the price until it sells or he keeps it. That part will take care of itself, with or without your help.

    Just because you CAN comment on it, and no matter how much it's itching your ego to do so, it doesn't mean you SHOULD comment.
    Didn't know we were still under censorship, sorry to hear that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by apconan View Post
    Didn't know we were still under censorship, sorry to hear that.
    Apconan - are you trying to censor Thomas? Of course not. Neither is he censoring you. He is, however, pointing out the outrageous lack of courtesy and tact that this thread (and others like it) is producing.

    Didn't your mamas ever give you folks the talk about what to do when not having something nice to say? (Sorry, Mom).

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    I don't know about censorship, but there are things like empathy and common decency. Empathy is a concept that is long forgotten and rarely practiced. These comments about the price did not help Colin in any way shape or form, instead it hampered his efforts. What could anybody here possibly gain from that? It's absolutely useless behavior that serves no purpose other than exercising the right to speak up. But what about responsibility? Responsibility to your fellow humans and photographers?

    Ponder the following: Perhaps the seller is really desperate for cash. Perhaps he needs to have dental surgery or take care of an emergency. He really needs to sell his camera. Why do you want to argue with the price? What's the god damned point? How does it help?

    It has nothing to do with censorship; it has to do with being a decent human being and treating others with respect and empathy. It saddens me to no limit that people just have to speak their minds, regardless of the consequences.
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    Folks - I'm making the extra effort to sell it through here for reasons I've already mentioned: I'm a big believer in APUG, had lots of terrific and positive experiences here, and would rather any commission from a sale go towards maintaining this site. I like APUG and am willing to put my money where my mouth is.

    I think it's a fair price and definitely believe in the gear. You can disagree, that's fine, but in order to keep things positive and keep APUG a good place to be, let's keep unhelpful comments away. I do likewise for others, so...thanks again to all and I do hope a buyer can be found here. It truly is a superb bit of kit.

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    To be fair, Colin, you did express your dispair (almost) with us for not taking this thing off you.
    All that happened is that you got the response that sollicited.

    I still wish you the best of success selling the camera for what you think it is worth!

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    Colin-
    I apologize to you for my part in steering this train wreck.
    I'll post no further except to say, again, good luck to you and your eventual buyer.
    Thanks.

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