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    Thank you Sean and Les that was well stated.

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    good move Sean

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    Thank you Sean and Les for your statement!

    I have "survived" similar nonsense in a German photo group by just leaving it!
    I hate narrow minded ideas and thought they would not happen in a wide international group...

    Let`s keep on making photographs for the galleries!!
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    Well said, Les.

    Sean many thanks (again!) for your continued efforts. Hopefully the increased thickness of the rubber wallpaper will be sufficient!
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    Thank you Sean for addressing this promply. I am encouraged by your appreciation of the different points of view...no pun intended. Thanks Les, for bringing to light the intentions of the post which I have known from the beginning since I visit the chatroom also. It was distasteful to me that it was only meant to provoke people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mono View Post
    I hate narrow minded ideas and thought they would not happen in a wide international group...
    Is it narrow minded to stand up for you own individual moral standards or to have different moral standards than others?
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    Quote Originally Posted by roteague View Post
    Is it narrow minded to stand up for you own individual moral standards or to have different moral standards than others?
    To have different moral standards from others is not narrow-minded.

    To stand up for your moral standards is not narrow-minded.

    But to assume that everyone else would be better off if they had the same moral standards as you do, is narrow-minded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ole View Post
    But to assume that everyone else would be better off if they had the same moral standards as you do, is narrow-minded.
    That doesn't excuse lack of consideration or common courtesy towards others.
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    "Common courtesy" is entirely independent from morality, ethics, religion or whatever. As long as it's not confused with "common sense", which in the majority of cases is neither.

    It might be connected to that mythical quantity called "taste", however.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ole View Post
    To have different moral standards from others is not narrow-minded.

    To stand up for your moral standards is not narrow-minded.

    But to assume that everyone else would be better off if they had the same moral standards as you do, is narrow-minded.

    And, that cuts both ways.

    Telling someone with a "closed" mindset that he would be better off "open" is narrow-minded.

    Ole's post leaves does leave that open, so I am being redundant.

    Personally, I think everyone would be better off with a nice old camera, a lot of film and a lot of time to shoot. When I was young, the first two were harder to come by...now it is the last part that I need.

    Matt

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