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    I see two types here:

    Type I cries out that film is dying, and will soon be dead.

    Type II cries out that film is not dying, and that Type I people are silly and wrong.

    Both types are wrong, and both have turned this into religion.

    The truth lies somewhere between what Type I believes and what Type II believe.

    I personally thing film is on the decline and will continue to decline, but not to the point of absolute death. No, it will survive as a boutique industry, where 2-3 makers will survive and continue to offer film related products; although those products will be a subset of what is offered today.

    I dislike both types; the Type I and IIs as mostly over emotional blow hards full of anecdotal opinions and very little facts.
    Coming back home to my film roots. Canon EOS-3 SLR, Canon EOS 1V SLR, 580ex flash, and 5D DSLR shooter. Prime lens only shooter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Photo Engineer View Post
    On another topic, Keith should remember that Perez is on the President's jobs creation committee! Isn't that ironic? There must be some message in that!

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    Yeah. Great choice, right? Well maybe Immelt will give him a job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MDR View Post
    ... it's a sign for the complete downfall of the US manufacturing industry (except military). ...
    Correction: INCLUDING the military.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverGlow View Post
    The truth lies somewhere between what Type I believes and what Type II believe.
    It is possible that only history will determine what the "truth" is or isn't. And even that cannot be guaranteed.

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    Well aviation is a bright spot, there is that. And the new aluminum hull ships will need to be replaced every week so maybe that's a good thing too

    All you guys fretting about "manufacturing".... didn't you get the memo? We don't "do" things anymore. Other people in foreign countries "do" now. We simply buy disposable electronics and message each other.

    My brief blog rant on this subject may be found here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by keithwms View Post
    Well aviation is a bright spot, there is that.
    Yeah, keep selling those fighters to Saudi Arabia and all will be ok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keithwms View Post
    All you guys fretting about "manufacturing".... didn't you get the memo? We don't "do" things anymore...
    I worry those worries and WRITE those memos on a daily basis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael R 1974 View Post
    Yeah, keep selling those fighters to Saudi Arabia and all will be ok.
    The problem with military hardware is that if you don't have wars, it just sits. Which is bad for business. We should put Microsft on this problem. I bet they could make our military vehicles freeze up and become obsolete every year....
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    Quote Originally Posted by keithwms View Post
    The problem with military hardware is that if you don't have wars, it just sits.
    And you'd prefer those ICBM's be launched?

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    Relax, I am being sarcastic!
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