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    Gosh. Hasn't enough been said? Why not just give your opinion, once and with clarity, and let it be?

    Move along folks, nothing left to see here
    "Only dead fish follow the stream"

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    Quote Originally Posted by keithwms View Post
    Gosh. Hasn't enough been said? Why not just give your opinion, once and with clarity, and let it be?

    Move along folks, nothing left to see here
    In honor of Mother Kodak, I just purchased 2 fifty sheet boxes of tx320, upon the latest news, but had to go to Adorama to do it, nothing ever to be found local. Buy more film, type less.

    Good read,
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    Amen to that ^^^ Putting in a big order of tmax sheet film right now.
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    yep, next payday it'll be 2 more boxes of Kodak sheet film for me.

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    Problem is if Kodak goes down.

    What's going to happen to Kodak Australia, and Kodak insertcountryhere. They bring in the film and most importantly, chemistry, for local purchase.

    Also, how will they be able to trade the film and chemistry under Kodak's label? (ie: Agfa).

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    Sincerely hope that Kodak can hang on until Oct 3rd, 2013 so I can write a sardonic reply to this classic photo.net post from 2003:

    "I firmly believe that film will indeed disappear for all intents and purposes within this decade (if a roll of Tri-X costs $49.95, who is *really* going to buy it?)" [...] "Whether there will be any film available by 2010 or not isn't worth debating, the cost will be extraordinarily high [...] it will in fact be only the affluent collector who will find film affordable"
    http://photo.net/leica-rangefinders-...06969?start=10

    The long death of film (always understood as the death of Kodak) is a phenomenon in itself, some people would give an arm to extent their life by as long as film has died. Premature mourning is never a good thing. I for one will miss the darkroom but we're not there yet, maybe I'll get bored and give up long before the death or maybe I will die first. Who knows. I'll probably take up drawing - can't create art through this lame computer, it would be like making love to your partner whilst wearing work clothes, an intolerable merging of two separate worlds: work and play. Besides, I don't think film and digital are analogous. The presence of a lens seems to be the only marrying factor but I could write a poem while wearing glasses and create art with a lens. Cooking has more in common with its obsession with time and cumulative stages. Artistic urges will always find a channel. However, I'm rather pleased with how my photos look during this long death of film, I can't say that the morbid obsession some people have with envisioning the approaching chill has tempered my printing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Athiril View Post
    Problem is if Kodak goes down.

    What's going to happen to Kodak Australia, and Kodak insertcountryhere. They bring in the film and most importantly, chemistry, for local purchase.

    Also, how will they be able to trade the film and chemistry under Kodak's label? (ie: Agfa).
    Well Kodak out sourced it's import and distribution in the UK a few years ago to a company called Sangers. The load was too much for them and they went bust. Now a new company formed by people from the old Kodak Import/Distribution division in the UK provides a far more efficient service.

    One of Kodaks problems has been that they messed up the restructuring of import/distribution in many parts of the world as a consequence losing sales to competitors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lawrenceimpey View Post
    Anyone looking to take over the Kodak b&w film business will have their work cut out, that's for sure. First thing is, take a look at the competition. True, Fuji film has been dropping like flies (goodbye SS & NP1600) but most likely they'll carry on with NP400 & Acros (they are Fujifilm after all). Then there's Ilford offering a large range of film and paper as well as other European producers such as Foma & Efke not to mention Lucky in China. And you're going to turn this thing round on a dime in the middle of a recession (depression?). Personally I doubt it.
    The NP400 is discontinued also...

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    It's wrong to characterise Kodak's problem as being 'dragged down' by their reliance on film. As I understand it, Kodak - probably better than most - recognised the imminent end of the film market and sought to adapt themselves to survive by downsizing their film operation rapidly and in a reasonably orderly manner which is why they can still make a small operating profit from it. Their problem is that they haven't been able to transfer their commanding position in analogue imaging - which has evaporated along with the mass-market for film - into the digital market. For all the doomsaying, I suspect there will always be a small, specialised but potentially profitable market for film products, and in some form or other, Kodak's film division may well be part of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ade-oh View Post
    It's wrong to characterise Kodak's problem as being 'dragged down' by their reliance on film. As I understand it, Kodak - probably better than most - recognised the imminent end of the film market and sought to adapt themselves to survive by downsizing their film operation rapidly and in a reasonably orderly manner which is why they can still make a small operating profit from it. Their problem is that they haven't been able to transfer their commanding position in analogue imaging - which has evaporated along with the mass-market for film - into the digital market. For all the doomsaying, I suspect there will always be a small, specialised but potentially profitable market for film products, and in some form or other, Kodak's film division may well be part of it.
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