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    Ok, ok, rub it in! I missed the whole thing looking for (and having used) the tiny and almost silly print scanner and overlooking all of the professional equipment. Right or wrong though, it is clear that EK blew it when they dropped out of scanners.

    I should mention that I have just finished an interview with Scott Sheppard for Inside Analog Photo and which goes over the many many steps where I saw Kodak go wrong (for whatever reason). I saw it from the bottom, as I said, as if I were at the bottom of an outhouse!

    Anyhow, I do not document these, just the ones I was involved in such as the Drivetech and Verbatim debacles.

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    The Journal has this to say about The George Eastman House, interesting read...

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...800601346.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Photo Engineer View Post
    Ok, ok, rub it in! I missed the whole thing looking for (and having used) the tiny and almost silly print scanner and overlooking all of the professional equipment. Right or wrong though, it is clear that EK blew it when they dropped out of scanners.
    The place where I worked always was aware that they had to fight the "silo" problem where one section does not know what another section is doing, it seems that EK was even more a harbour of this problem than many companies it's size. Microfilm comes on different spools than Movie film for example, even though they are the same size and come in the same box (16mmX100Ft size rolls) - Movie negative has no relation to still negative having totaly different speeds, chemistry and marketing.
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    Yeah and ECN and C41 are different. Etc, etc, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmacd123 View Post
    One line in the story mentions that the OSCAR folks (AMPAS) is uneasy about the OSCAR night happening at a theatre named after a now Bankrupt company. The TV coverage would have to mention the Kodak Name, and OSCAR folks might not be happy to do that. If they can kill the contract, the theatre could be called something else by Oscar night.
    Since the court approved Kodak being relieved of its obligation to continue paying for naming rights, I heard on today's local news that tonight's ceremony will refer to the venue as "The Hollywood and Highland Center."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aristophanes View Post
    Using the newer CMOS sensors with the Bayer filter removed (like the D800E) a digital photo of the negative in an automated process is entirely possible provided the optics and the lighting are consistent.

    You'll get a RAW file of the negative, and pretty high resolution and DMAX as well (not as good with B&W, but pretty much there for colour negs). This is pretty close to or better than what a Noritsu or Fuji Frontier can do, and may, in fact be faster and require less human operator oversight. If you're scanning into RAW in PS or Aperture or Lightroom, who cares? It's not for print (not yet). It's for still photo digital intermediation, while still preserving the analog flow to print if desired—just a branch on the tree of possibilities.

    This what dedicated film scanners should be/could be. This would reposition film as a medium nearer to the sharing prospects of digital and give the print and negative itself both archival presence and a more special place in the photographic process and context, especially if handcrafted in the darkroom.

    Why Kodak has not gone down this path is a mystery. Kodak develops these branching tree technologies, then gets busy sawing them off to preserve print and film stock sales. It was Fuji with their scanner modules attached to their mini-labs that integrated the process for the consumer. Kodak actually saw that as a threat, but they were nevertheless busy designing MP film for digital intermediate and doing the reverse with their film recorders:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Film_recorder

    And their film scanners:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_...e_film_scanner

    I mean, some of these systems are scanning at 8 frames/second with Director's Cut fidelity once the colour is matched; considering the film is shot at 24fps and colour matching for still photos can be done later on the home computer.

    It really is a tragedy. The more I read about Kodak's missed opportunities and vision problem, the more Scotch I want to drink.
    One wonders why Nikon doesn't update/reintro its high-end Coolscans when 9000ED models are going for absurd prices. Keep hoping Fuji will roll a scanner out just to spite Nikon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CGW View Post
    One wonders why Nikon doesn't update/reintro its high-end Coolscans when 9000ED models are going for absurd prices. Keep hoping Fuji will roll a scanner out just to spite Nikon.
    Because ramping up production to make them would require that they be able to sell tens of thousands. If there were that many on the used market, they wouldn't be selling for absurd prices.
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    Fuji won't put out a consumer scanner and spite their remaining lab scanners like the 2500.

    Scanning is the most obvious reason why Kodak did not "get" it. Since online sharing is now the dominant norm, and Kodak stuck to print services (ad still does), they missed the ability to get their film online. Their route now goes mostly through Fuji lab systems, and in playing catch-up, Kodak struck some deal with Noritsu that resolved nothing. Personal home scanning cannot keep up the volume compared to lab scanning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aristophanes View Post
    Fuji won't put out a consumer scanner and spite their remaining lab scanners like the 2500.

    Scanning is the most obvious reason why Kodak did not "get" it. Since online sharing is now the dominant norm, and Kodak stuck to print services (ad still does), they missed the ability to get their film online. Their route now goes mostly through Fuji lab systems, and in playing catch-up, Kodak struck some deal with Noritsu that resolved nothing. Personal home scanning cannot keep up the volume compared to lab scanning.
    Still puzzling since Fuji cooks its own chips, makes film+processing/printing gear, and creates products like the X series cameras.

    Fuji and Noritsu labs are vanishing around the GTA. They're heavily pushing dry machinery to the labs and whispering that the end of their old film processing/printing machinery is nigh.

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    I often thought that Kodak should push the film to scanning via several methods. I look at images from my F3 that are scanned at a high resolution rate and I am just blown away. My D70 is not even close. Maybe a full frame would be comparable but the upfront investment is not for the average camera bug. JMHO
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