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    Quote Originally Posted by keithwms View Post
    Well, I don't think it's a dead end at all. Many of us who happily use RFs don't think it's a dead end at all. Yes, mirrorless cameras have a long way to go, and there will be many incremental advances before it's fully mature, but... that's exactly what you want when creating a new market. Hear me now believe me later, cameras with mirrors (including digitals) will go out of mass production within a decade.
    Many cameras nowaday resemble a rangefinder camera but the only true rangefinder digital are the Leica M8 and M9 and the old Epson RD-1. All have Leica M mount.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keithwms View Post
    Well, I don't think it's a dead end at all. Many of us who happily use RFs don't think it's a dead end at all. Yes, mirrorless cameras have a long way to go, and there will be many incremental advances before it's fully mature, but... that's exactly what you want when creating a new market. Hear me now believe me later, cameras with mirrors (including digitals) will go out of mass production within a decade.
    Not talking about film cameras. Had a chance to play with a Sony NEX-7 with its killer EVF. It won't be long before OLED viewfinders rule. No prophetic statements necessary.

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    Does anyone remember Polaroid's instant slide film? Does anyone remember Polaroid? I have one of the processor's in hardly used condition ... any offers?

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    Hello Daniel,

    Quote Originally Posted by PKM-25 View Post
    I talked to Audrey Jonckheer via email a few days ago, she said in terms of film being produced, it is the way it has always been, is business as usual at Kodak and that they look at the numbers closely every month. The products have to be used in sufficient quantities for it to be produced, reasonable for sure.
    which is confirmed by the bjp article posted above and also here in a German article quoting a Kodak rep saying Kodak intends to continue production of film and photopaper:

    http://www.n-tv.de/wirtschaft/Kodak-...le5457701.html

    Quote Originally Posted by PKM-25 View Post
    So I think more promotion on our part is in order, the advertising budgets for many companies, not just Kodak, have been tightened over the years post Sept. 2008 and some have not fully come back as ad and marketing departments took to social media to get the word out at a much lower cost. Kodak has good presence on Facebook and I am now going to post regularly there to give a visual plug to what is being done with Kodak films. It really is up to us to keep film around and that includes helping ALL film makers advertise and market.
    +1.
    People can make a difference, consumers can make a difference, we all film shooters can make a difference and change things.
    Not only shooting film on a regular basis by ourselves, but also spread the word being active to get others interested in the joy of shooting film.
    Film has so much to offer.
    If you show it to others interested in photography, especially younger photographers (at least that is my experience) and explain the possibilities and strengths of the medium and what makes it unique, you will have success (again my experiences; I've got many people into shooting film during the last years).
    Imagine, if each film shooter convince at least two or three others to shoot film.
    Then photo film will be on the safe(r) side.

    But of course it is not only our mission. It is definitely the duty of all companies which earn their income by selling film, photochemicals, photopaper and development services.
    It is the duty not only of film manufacturers, but especially the duty of specialised distributors like Freestyle, Maco, Fotoimpex etc., and the duty of professional labs.
    They must stop their inactivity and start marketing for film.
    They want to sell film, therefore they have to convince consumers to buy film.

    Best regards,
    Henning
    Last edited by Henning Serger; 02-09-2012 at 12:18 PM. Click to view previous post history. Reason: typo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Henning Serger View Post
    People can make a difference, consumers can make a difference, we all film shooters can make a difference and change things.
    Not only shooting film on a regular basis by ourselves, but also spread the word being active to get others interested in the joy of shooting film.
    Film has so much to offer.
    If you show it to others interested in photography, especially younger photographers (at least that is my experience) and explain the possibilities and strengths of the medium and what makes it unique, you will have success (again my experiences; I've got many people into shooting film during the last years).
    Imagine, if each film shooter convince at least two or three others to shoot film.
    Then photo film will be on the safe(r) side.
    My thoughts exactly but written more eloquently than I would have done.

    Quote Originally Posted by Henning Serger View Post
    It is the duty not only of film manufactureres, but especially the duty of the specialised distributors like Freestyle, Maco, Fotoimpex etc., and the duty of professional labs.
    They must stop their inactivity and start marketing for film.
    They want to sell film, therefore they have to convince consumers to buy film.
    I don't think Kodak has any choice now. They are going to have to market their film products rather than consider them an embarassment to be hidden away.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Henning Serger View Post
    Hello Daniel,



    which is confirmed by the bjp article posted above and also here in a German article quoting a Kodak rep saying Kodak intends to continue production of film and photopaper:

    http://www.n-tv.de/wirtschaft/Kodak-...le5457701.html



    +1.
    People can make a difference, consumers can make a difference, we all film shooters can make a difference and change things.
    Not only shooting film on a regular basis by ourselves, but also spread the word being active to get others interested in the joy of shooting film.
    Film has so much to offer.
    If you show it to others interested in photography, especially younger photographers (at least that is my experience) and explain the possibilities and strengths of the medium and what makes it unique, you will have success (again my experiences; I've got many people into shooting film during the last years).
    Imagine, if each film shooter convince at least two or three others to shoot film.
    Then photo film will be on the safe(r) side.

    But of course it is not only our mission. It is definitely the duty of all companies which earn their income by selling film, photochemicals, photopaper and development services.
    It is the duty not only of film manufacturers, but especially the duty of specialised distributors like Freestyle, Maco, Fotoimpex etc., and the duty of professional labs.
    They must stop their inactivity and start marketing for film.
    They want to sell film, therefore they have to convince consumers to buy film.

    Best regards,
    Henning
    BJP just reprints/repeats press releases. It's Kodak reps' job to make soothing noises to customers. The "duty" and "mission" stuff is a bit fanciful.

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    I am wondering how big of a company Kodak would have to spin off as a film photography only manufactures B&W, Color negative and slide films in all sizes plus paper and chemicals?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CGW View Post
    There's already a dead end taking shape with mirror-less bodies designed to look like their film ancestors, e.g., the Olympus OM-D, Pentax K-01 and the Fuji X10. EVFs are making mirrors and prisms obsolete--Sony's NEX bodies a case in point.
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    Mmmmm....

    DSLR sales are at an all-time high despite mirrorless intrusions.

    Nikon just released God's DSLR the D800 with an OVF.

    I think the OVF is here to stay.

    Prisms are static and powerful, more than any sensor at relaying 100% Dr with no latency. Mirrors are a decades-old sunk cost, so have no R&D run-up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David A. Goldfarb View Post
    "Eastman Kodak plans to focus on its other businesses which include photo sharing, digital kiosks, and traditional film, a still-profitable branch of the company’s business."

    "The one silver lining* is that Kodak will continue producing color and black-and-white film, news that should make traditional photographers happy."


    Ken

    * No mention if the pun was intended...
    "Hate is an adolescent term used to stop discussion with people you disagree with. You can do better than that."
    —'blanksy', December 13, 2013

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