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    Quote Originally Posted by LunoLuno View Post
    From the discontiuance notice released yesterday,

    .....This does not affect KODAK PROFESSIONAL Color Negative Films or KODAK PROFESSIONAL Black and White Films which remain a viable part of the KODAK PROFESSIONAL Film portfolio......

    I would never believe what Kodak says from now on, never!!! Only a month or so ago, they said they would continue engaging films, and made an annoucment to us users not to worry about Kodak's films future, at least for a while. And then, they axed all their slides. I'm not saying that they should keep all their slides, but they should keep at least one of them, just for a little longer. It's a total disgrace! No one would surprise even if they axed all their Color Negatives or B&W next month!


    i was upset too when they told me in person ( a vp from what he told me he was ) that kodak had no plans on eliminating
    anything in their analog portfolio ... closing down the paper mills in south america was just consolidation of one of their divisions ...
    and then 2 weeks later they eliminated their black/white papers &c ...


    and whether or not they came out immediately and said they were going to eliminate products from their analog portfolio ( even 8 years ago )
    doesn't really matter anymore to me. they know a lot of people rely on their products - color, back+white ... and i believe they are trying to do their best
    to keep their analog production line alive as much as possible.

    i was upset, but now i just shrug my shoulders.
    they are in bankruptcy ... at least they have admitted they are struggling, and having trouble making ends meet.
    with most of the people in the world switching to a different medium to make their photographs, i never expected them to make it this far ...

    it will be interesting to see what happens in the next few years ...

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    I am starting to think Kodak is not going to divest the film business anymore. My reasoning is that if they wanted to do so, they would have sold the film div with all it's attributes so the new investors can make a go at making production runs that reflect current market needs. They wouldn't kill lines (ie chromes for still) if they were actively shoppping it around. But someone could argue that in order to divest the need to cut the low hanging fruit to make it marketable. I think they are going to keep film.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zsas View Post
    I am starting to think Kodak is not going to divest the film business anymore.
    That was my thought as well. I was hoping film would be spun off to somebody that had a strategic vision. Guess not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zsas View Post
    they would have sold the film div with all it's attributes so the new investors can make a go at making production runs that reflect current market needs.
    But they are saying there is no demand for slide film.
    Who would want to buy this division?
    How can you be so sure that they did not already try it?
    It is so annoying when people just suppose they know everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stavrosk View Post
    But they are saying there is no demand for slide film.
    Who would want to buy this division?
    How can you be so sure that they did not already try it?
    It is so annoying when people just suppose they know everything.
    Slide film is not a "division," it is part and parcel of their film operations. Your latter statement I concur with.

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    Happily shooting astia and provia in all sizes, from 120, quickoad 4x5, to 8x10... Of course, just now somebody will say: you can't do that! the sky is falling! it's all over! no! you can't be happy! you can't, you shouldn't, you... aaaaaaaa........

    Hmm, I think I'll buy another 8x10 box of astia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by keithwms View Post
    Happily shooting astia and provia in all sizes, from 120, quickoad 4x5, to 8x10... Of course, just now somebody will say: you can't do that! the sky is falling! it's all over! no! you can't be happy! you can't, you shouldn't, you... aaaaaaaa........

    Hmm, I think I'll buy another 8x10 box of astia.
    from where? japan? fuji killed 8x10 astia here.
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    Yep from Japan Exposures. If anybody wants to join in a bulk purchase just let me know- you can save on shipping.

    Like I said many times in the case of LF Polaroid and in my Kodak blog post, at some point a person has to ask what the final shot will be worth, and the answer is priceless. One can thus reasonably surmise that the cost of the material in a year or so will be somewhere between current price and infinity and hedge one's bets accordingly. The value of the output certainly isn't going down, so the cost fo the materials will, of course, go up. It's up to individuals to decide how to play that. For me the case is very strong to keep buying and shooting; if the cost of the material exceeds the value I think I can place on a frame, then I will sell the material. But we're not anywhere close to that yet, with slide.

    I haven't relied on Kodak for anything for, oh, a couple years now. Sorry folks but they have been publically euthanizing their film products for years now.
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    Just making a guess folks nothing more, I don't pretend to know anything!
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    I indeed still own a slide projector. And I have some mixed memories of family slide shows as an "event." I would be urged to display the latest output from my trusty Argus C3, and in the midst of it, amongst some oohs and ahs hear my great uncle Frank snoring in the background.

    I gradually switched to prints circa 1970. I think part of it was the print film and technology had improved, but also there have been lifestyle changes. Having something you could pass around without the formality of converting a room to a theater simplified a portion of our busy lives. Today, there are far fewer family get-togethers, we just put stuff on the web.



 

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