Someone already did on the first page. I'm surprised no one has brought up Plus-X or TXP.
Originally Posted by David Brown
Edit: someone did.
Stop worrying about grain, resolution, sharpness, and everything else that doesn't have a damn thing to do with substance.
or 120. =)
Originally Posted by RidingWaves
Love that film
Jedidiah, Kodak are client to one of the top Ad agencies in the world - Ogilvy & Mather. David Ogilvy is considered the father of advertising.
Originally Posted by Jedidiah Smith
This is the last Kodak Ad campaign I heard about http://www.campaignlive.co.uk/thework/1088379/ by Ogilvy & Mather
Roger, the difference is substantial in medium format as well. Thats why they are offering it in that format since a few months.
Originally Posted by Roger Cole
Also, I think its available upon request in larger sizes as well, not without a reason. Yep, its spreading to other formats, folks.
The new developer they did last year for the medium format launch is spectacular.
At least in Europe, Kodak Technical Pan was unreasonably priced and partially that helped its demise., these days most Kodak products are still keeping double prices over here and less and less folks are buying it.
As for Tmax, well Rollei Retro 80S completely murders Tmax in all regards and have the same speed. It has been talked about many times.
Both, Adox CMS and Retro Retro 80S and some other films are in fact made by AGFA, so QC is top notch and more than whats needed.
AGFA don't sell directly to end customers anymore, only biz to biz, hence You have Adox and Rollei doing what they are doing.
Same story with papers.
Well I always loved APX 100 and 400. Where are they?
And while they're at it, bring back Agfa's last line of C41 films. Optima 100 was good but nothing that I can't get from Portra, close enough. But Ultra 50 had a saturation that was just incredible, even more than today's Ektar 100, heck I think it was more saturated than Velvia. I rarely wanted such exaggerated color but when I wanted it, Ultra 50 delivered. What I'd like even better would be something like Portrait 160. Today we have highly saturated film (Ektar 100) and moderately highly saturated film (everything else) - there is no muted pastel film available. I've no idea how to get that kind of look anymore from film/paper. The only way I know to get it is digitally.
How are Kodak going to do that?!!!
Originally Posted by Roger Cole
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Roger, they say the last reincarnation of APX is still on the market as APX100 from Agfaphoto or as Rollei Retro 100.
Apart from that, Adox got the machines and engineers form AFGA that did APX, so its a matter of time to start rolling.
You can see that they are working on it - ADOX Pan 100 (i.p.), ADOX Pan 400
Resurrect color is a no go, at least not in Europe.. given the current economy situation and market.
Ektar is a perfect film, so shoot it while You still have it.
Some Kodak ads from 1970 till present http://www.advertolog.com/brands/kodak/
Little bit of a diversion there. The poster I was responding to was saying that Adox film was just Agfa. So I meant, well, in that case, have them (Adox) give us those films.
Originally Posted by Steve Smith
Back to Kodak dreamin'...
I do like Ektar a lot, and it's less...temperamental than Ultra 50 was. But damn that film was something.
Originally Posted by georg16nik
Why we're very unlikely to see any of these past films resurrected is that everyone wants certain favorites,
and Kodak has already done an excellent job of making their remaining film lineup the most versatile ever.
Pooling buying power on specialty products isn't that easy unless you're gov't, a huge industrial user, or some outfit looking to rebrand and volume distribute yourself. Chromes from them are probably gone for good. But in anything like a custom run of anything else, just be happy if it's less than seven figures. Maybe if it one of their old standby products, but I wouldn't hold my breath. If you want them to stay in business, keep buying what they offer now.
i find it very strange that they dismantled the whole processing side of their business,
killed off paper, sold off the chemistry division, has discontinued emulsion after emulsion.
then a month or so after they file for bankruptcy, say they are going to resurrect all their old
emulsions in a boutique quantities ... they just raised their prices again by 15%, i can only imagine
how much their new boutique line of film will cost the consumer. a 100sheet box of tmy has more than doubled in price in the
past 10 years, if in boutique amounts made its going to cost 4x what i paid 10years ago ... in the middle of a recession, i don't think
many people will buy already excessively expensive film.
but then again, maybe they are just coming to their senses ?
maybe they will sell master rolls of sheet film to our good friends in california to cut to custom sizes, notch and package ...
Originally Posted by eddie
i know exactly what you mean. having simon here is the icing on the cake !
with no one from KOduck here, this is just 11 pages of speculation ...