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    You're all high.
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    We're tryin'. Pass the bong...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Grant View Post
    There were smaller volume machines made so it is vaguely possible.

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    The K-labs. Not sure how well they worked, but they were made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CGW View Post
    $$$ Wonder if film prices will spike, especially if its sold with processing included. Be careful what you wish for...

    How far away is April 1?
    Depends on the film and how much it spikes. I just paid over $10 a roll for ten rolls of E100G. I'd gladly pay $20 a roll for Kodachrome 64 with processing included. I'd not pay more than, say, $25 though, not while E6 films and processing are still readily available (and processing IS readily available - you may have to send it out; I'm fine with that and do it all the time anyway.)

    $50 Drew? Ouch, yeah, not many would pay that. But isn't 8x10 Ektar already something like $10-$13 or so? $20 a sheet for 8x10 Kodachrome processing included doesn't look that bad compared to those numbers.

    Still, I'll be happy to get it back in 35mm.

    While we're all getting high on the prospect of a return of Kodachrome, get them to run some type R paper for all those chromes too. Happy days again...

    (And then I woke up - but it still could be a good thing ultimately, just maybe not THIS good.)

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    I love this speculation! Let's hope it pans out this way!
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    I am hallucinating... I was in the darkroom... maybe I forgot to turn on the ventilation system?

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    While I'm not going to hold my breath, it might be fun to pause just a bit before exhaling...



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    The Kodak Park power plant needs a 40 to 60 million dollar upgrade (it presently burns coal) to meet federal and state standards. http://www.13wham.com/news/local/sto...RbemHlBxQ.cspx This could be a major problem in the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Grant View Post
    If the coating division of Kodak gets free of the Eastman Kodak shackles and rids it's obligations to past employes it may well rise from the ashes. Sounds like things may be possible
    If the only way for this to happen is by shafting past employees by reneging on agreements made years ago, then I will never buy anything made by them.

    Why is it considered anything less than a crime to cancel pensions and such? Forget the lawyers, it's the MBAs we need to kill first.

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    Actually, what is described in the OP is exactly how modern manufacturing is done. The process and equipment is sized to the market. The general idea is to make exactly as much of the product as will be consumed, when and as it is consumed. In theory, if the process and production methods are designed correctly, it IS possible to make a profitable product in any size market. The company I work for is a niche electronics producer and this is how we work everyday. The part that seems to make it profitable or not is the amount of inventory that has to be managed (less is better) and how you account for it or so I am told - I'm not an accountant.

    The batch nature of film production changes the scenario somewhat, but if they could stock small master rolls of their emulsions with long enough shelf life to allow the roll to be fully consumed, then each week (for the sake of argument) they would spool up enough rolls to fulfill that weeks sales, or, better yet, preferably on demand and by order.

    Walking through our fairly small plant I did a mental exercise as to whether film (color and b/w) film could be made in that facility and I decided it could, but you'd have to do it by the sort of model described in the OP.

    They might have some very good people advising them. What is described is not that far fetched. If they could make the emulsion for Panatomic-X and Kodachrome using the equipment they describe, the rest of it just might be an exercise for the accountants.

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