Switch to English Language Passer en langue française Omschakelen naar Nederlandse Taal Wechseln Sie zu deutschen Sprache Passa alla lingua italiana
Members: 75,781   Posts: 1,671,220   Online: 813
      
Page 22 of 26 FirstFirst ... 121617181920212223242526 LastLast
Results 211 to 220 of 254
  1. #211
    MattKing's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    Delta, British Columbia, Canada
    Shooter
    Multi Format
    Posts
    14,036
    Images
    63
    Quote Originally Posted by SkipA View Post
    I thought Kodak chemistry was already spun off a while back, and is a profitable business. Ron will surely know.
    The Photo Chemistry was licensed to Champion, and Champion are one of the large creditors owed piles of money according to the bankruptcy filing.
    Last edited by MattKing; 08-23-2012 at 08:13 PM. Click to view previous post history. Reason: misbehaving '
    Matt

    “Photography is a complex and fluid medium, and its many factors are not applied in simple sequence. Rather, the process may be likened to the art of the juggler in keeping many balls in the air at one time!”

    Ansel Adams, from the introduction to The Negative - The New Ansel Adams Photography Series / Book 2

  2. #212

    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Location
    Enroute
    Shooter
    Multi Format
    Posts
    2,004
    Quote Originally Posted by MattKing View Post
    The Photo Chemistry was licensed to Champion, and Champion are one of the large creditor's owed piles of money according to the bankruptcy filing.
    Noted.....20 more 5 liter packs of Xtol in my B&H basket.
    "I'm the freak that shoots film. God bless the freaks!" ~ Mainecoonmaniac ~

  3. #213
    kb3lms's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Location
    Reading, PA USA
    Shooter
    35mm
    Posts
    810
    Images
    5
    So, if maybe someone could distill this down, what exactly is Kodak selling? The still camera films and color paper? Does this include the coating facilities? If it doesn't, what is another company going to do with the recipes for PORTRA, TRI-X and EKTAR, just to name a few flagship products? We've already heard, and some of us experienced first hand, the difficulties inherent in making the same emulsion twice, let alone in another plant. Obviously it can be done, but .... really?

    Is this supposed to be another distributorship deal?
    All this has happened before, and all this will happen again.

  4. #214

    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    Penfield, NY
    Shooter
    35mm
    Posts
    1,198
    Quote Originally Posted by kb3lms View Post
    So, if maybe someone could distill this down, what exactly is Kodak selling?
    I think the answer is that at this point, only upper Kodak management knows what this REALLY means. It MIGHT be just a "trial balloon" to see if there is any interest.

  5. #215

    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Location
    Enroute
    Shooter
    Multi Format
    Posts
    2,004
    Quote Originally Posted by kb3lms View Post
    So, if maybe someone could distill this down, what exactly is Kodak selling? The still camera films and color paper? Does this include the coating facilities? If it doesn't, what is another company going to do with the recipes for PORTRA, TRI-X and EKTAR, just to name a few flagship products? We've already heard, and some of us experienced first hand, the difficulties inherent in making the same emulsion twice, let alone in another plant. Obviously it can be done, but .... really?

    Is this supposed to be another distributorship deal?
    It can't be the coating facility unless Kodak plans to lease it back for the production of motion stock which they are commited to distrubuting through 2015. There is one big-ass automated coating facility at building 38 that does all the stock, motion, still, etc.

    This aspect of the "sale" is at the very least, mystifying.?..

    Maybe the motion picture industry will buy it and we will buy still film from them....?.....
    "I'm the freak that shoots film. God bless the freaks!" ~ Mainecoonmaniac ~

  6. #216
    RattyMouse's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Location
    Shanghai, China
    Shooter
    Multi Format
    Posts
    2,577
    Images
    81
    Quote Originally Posted by PKM-25 View Post
    It can't be the coating facility unless Kodak plans to lease it back for the production of motion stock which they are commited to distrubuting through 2015. There is one big-ass automated coating facility at building 38 that does all the stock, motion, still, etc.

    This aspect of the "sale" is at the very least, mystifying.?..

    Maybe the motion picture industry will buy it and we will buy still film from them....?.....
    FUJIFILM needs to step up and buy this facility. They are always going on and on about their commitment to film. Time to put actions behind those words.

  7. #217
    kb3lms's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Location
    Reading, PA USA
    Shooter
    35mm
    Posts
    810
    Images
    5
    I think the answer is that at this point, only upper Kodak management knows what this REALLY means.
    Oh, that's comforting!

    It MIGHT be just a "trial balloon" to see if there is any interest.
    Either the balloon or they have a buyer, or at least a buyer in mind that they've had discussions with and have a good idea where it's going to go.

    In my experience with corporate deals, very little is done by "rolling the dice." Usually by the time the public hears about something like this it is a done deal. Too many incentive plans, bonuses and plain old money wrapped up in these deals to just hang out a "for sale" sign. Clearly, with the timing of this announcement, if the patent sale didn't do what they wanted, this was "Plan B." There's too much riding on this to just float it out there and see if it sells. Their major creditors would not stand for that. The creditors and/or the courts probably demanded they try to sell the patent portfolio first and this has been brewing in the background and kept within the 19th floor at 343 State Street.

    Who is still friendly with Kodak that can do their own coating, wants to have coating done, or might want to contract Kodak's coating? (As in, throw in the towel on Building 38 and divest or shutter it. Building 38 doesn't sound like it fits with Perez's future plans.) Those answers might be very interesting.

    Something here doesn't make sense.
    All this has happened before, and all this will happen again.

  8. #218

    Join Date
    Sep 2002
    Location
    127.0.0.1
    Shooter
    Multi Format
    Posts
    604
    Quote Originally Posted by RattyMouse View Post
    FUJIFILM needs to step up and buy this facility. They are always going on and on about their commitment to film. Time to put actions behind those words.
    No. Fuji keeps discontinuing films. We would lose more films and more papers if Fuji were to do this.

  9. #219
    kb3lms's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Location
    Reading, PA USA
    Shooter
    35mm
    Posts
    810
    Images
    5
    FUJIFILM needs to step up and buy this facility. They are always going on and on about their commitment to film. Time to put actions behind those words.
    Nope, that isn't going to happen. One, anti-trust. Two, they don't need it. Three, too obvious. It'll be somebody else. Fotokemika is a better bet, but not my pick.
    All this has happened before, and all this will happen again.

  10. #220

    Join Date
    Sep 2002
    Location
    127.0.0.1
    Shooter
    Multi Format
    Posts
    604
    Quote Originally Posted by kb3lms View Post
    (As in, throw in the towel on Building 38 and divest or shutter it. Building 38 doesn't sound like it fits with Perez's future plans.)
    Where do you suppose motion picture film will be made? That business is not on the block, and Kodak has just made committments for the next three years.



 

APUG PARTNERS EQUALLY FUNDING OUR COMMUNITY:



Contact Us  |  Support Us!  |  Advertise  |  Site Terms  |  Archive  —   Search  |  Mobile Device Access  |  RSS  |  Facebook  |  Linkedin