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    Kodak Concedes Difficulty in Drawing Lead Bidder for Patents

    Kodak Concedes Difficulty in Drawing Lead Bidder for Patents at http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2012/06/...r-for-patents/ doesn't sound good, but I certainly hope it works out.

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    The question has to be what Patents do Kodak hold that competitors want to buy. First they are going to see how they can get around them, and then if they can't will weigh up whether a company in Bankruptcy (OK Chapter 9) could afford to take them to court anyway.

    I'm quite sure that Kodak could either licence or sell off Patented technology but at the moment it looks like a fire sale and Patents are not tangible assets.

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    and didn't they just lose a court case against apple ( and another ) involving patent infringement ?

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    Dumb moves by Kodak, chasing after patent infringement is not a way to increase earnings or to fix their bottom line. I wonder how much they are spending on lawyers which they could be throwing into R&D to actually make something that adds value to the company.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Newt_on_Swings View Post
    Dumb moves by Kodak, chasing after patent infringement is not a way to increase earnings or to fix their bottom line. I wonder how much they are spending on lawyers which they could be throwing into R&D to actually make something that adds value to the company.
    i believe they won decisions in similar patent infringement cases in the last few years
    so they thought it was going to be another sure thing, and it would bolster their portfolio ...

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    Now everyone that wants a piece is just a vulture sitting by the wayside or circling. They can wait and drag these things out, litigation always takes forever. Kodak on the other hand cannot, and will more likely run out of liquid assets or not get another loan guarantee to fund these expensive patent infringement cases.

    Also who will ultimately hold these patents if the do collapse even after attempted restructuring? That's another question that other companies may be asking aswell. How low in price will Kodak go if no one is interested in the current price. It may get up to a point where these companies they are suing may find it cheaper just to buy the rights than prolong the fight in the courtroom.

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    ^ Thought the timeline was 1 year, so maybe that puts it early 2013.

    Another ruling today, the judge didn't dismiss Apple's claim that they own 10 of the 1000 patents, so it looks like all 1000 patents will be auctioned, just 10 of them Apple is going to go after when the new buyer takes over these 10 disputed ones. Ultimately that baggage lessens the price of the portfolio since 10 of the patents will land the new owner in court upon the closing it sounds...
    http://www.nasdaq.com/article/judge-...20120613-01165
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    Update, Apple/RIM, determined to have not violated a Kodak patent, not good new for K, as the impact of such is their patent portfolio is not as profitable (and thus marketable at auction) since (at present) one of the more revenue generating patents was just deemed invalid....

    http://appleinsider.com/articles/12/...apple_rim.html
    Last edited by zsas; 07-22-2012 at 04:35 PM. Click to view previous post history. Reason: Fix link
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    Ilford will be the sole manufacturer of quality film in the end. I buy Ilford film and shoot it and I'm confident that I'll be able to do that for many years. Kodak? I couldn't care less. The world has moved on. Let's us do the same.
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    I really like Ilford products and the company and I will join your thinking when they start making color neg film like Portra and Ektar and slide film like Provia (and, please, E100G, E100VS and Astia!)

    Black and white us my main interest and love but at least 1/3 of my shooting is color. No help from Ilford there.
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