Lucky had a working agreement with Kodak from 2003 to 2007, when Kodak pulled out as they perceived a shrinking market in China.
But Lucky gained know-how.
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Excellent point! But ultimately disheartening... and I guess it depends on the influence that a resurgence of film in the west has on their own culture and development. Something we're all responsible for. If only it was Japan.
Originally Posted by Nicholas Lindan
I don't feel China will save film - the're going smart phone with camera instead.
If you want to encourage film use, have you considered being a photography merit badge counselor for the Boy Scouts? See http://meritbadge.org/wiki/index.php/Photography for the US description.
ERA film was far superior to Lucky and did Kodak not have something to with the demise of ERA?
I am one, and have introduced several Scouts to analog. The requirements don't require film but the principles (f/stop shutter speed) that are required are easier to demonstrate with a camera that you can look through.
Originally Posted by Prof_Pixel
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Kodak had a partnership with Lucky for a while, and then Kodak pulled out when they realized that the people with the disposable income were buying cell phones and digital cameras instead of film cameras. I don't remember what the write-down was, but it was absolutely huge.
No, China won't save film by itself. If Kodak stops selling film, don't expect anybody to take over their equipment. It will get scrapped out, and then business will shift to other surviving manufacturers.
Well, the hope among all of us here is that the film market isn't shrinking anymore, has found bottom, and maybe ticking up a bit with a film revival.
Originally Posted by CGW
I didnt mean that Chinese consumers would save film, but rather Chinese manufacturers. China could manufacture film in a cost effective way for export to the west. Something Kodak cannot do even after a decade of trying.
Originally Posted by Brian C. Miller
Hopefully. As people turn to alternatives for film, those alternatives tend to improve in order to retain their customers. Chinese films will improve.
Maybe if we are really lucky, Shanghai or Lucky will release color, slide, and b/w LF films. And if we are really lucky, maybe we will even see an instant film in the future.
Hang on, time to write letters to Lucky and Shanghai.
I don't care if I have to order film online from the company that makes it. Instead of shipping to stores, just have the customers order it and pay for their shipping. Yet another way to cut costs.
Then again, maybe I just like shooting film enough that I don't want to complain about who makes the film.
If a Chinese company makes affordable LF film, I'll shoot it and be thankful that there are still plenty of options for LF film. Hell, if Kodak went under, I'd try and get a hold of some of the processing stuff and start production of a cheap film in china.
There is a big profit for Chinese companies. Electricity and wages are at 1/10 level of western countries and they can produce everykind of machine 1/30 the price. If they could sell TriX clone for 6.5 dollars a roll , company owners would be very very rich in China. And all doesnt depends on Chinese investors , one of old AGFA , Fuji , Kodak engineers could collect some money from investors and build a industry in China.
China , 6 HP Diesel engine comes for 150 dollars , motorcycle costs 250 dollars etc etc.
I am thinking to live at Singapore at Future andlearn chinese than immigrate to China. Every year China produces
10 000 000 university graduates , Greece size. If European Union would give 300 billion dollars not to Greece but this 10 million kids , it would turn to 100 trillion dollars.