Maybe Efke will buy Kodak's film division.
OK, probably not.
When I want a good photo, I shoot digital. When I want a great photo, I shoot film.
Same here, I use once/twice a year some rolls Ilford PanF+ loaded in 6x9 or 135 but its different character.
Originally Posted by DREW WILEY
Its a matter of total reset of exposure and developing to come close to the Efke look, and until we still got the Efke available, there is no use to cross the street with a helicopter..
"It's all screwed up."
Originally Posted by madgardener
Or in a single acronym, SNAFU.
Efke is ceasing production voluntarily because they cannot make money in selling film and papers anymore. Market prices are way to low for silver based products since about 5 years, especially if your products contain a lot of silver.
Originally Posted by madgardener
Many of our ambitious projects stalled because of this as well.
Repairing the machine is not an option because it makes no economic sense to continue the production after the repair has been done. Not because it can´t be done or there would be no money available (this is simplifying things a bit but in general this is true).
We are not moving their production anywhere. This sad news has hit us suddenly and all we do at this point is thinking about ways what possibly could be done now to deal with the situation. Our stocks will be depleted in about 2 months.
One option is to manufacture a similar film on a small scale with modern technology at a higher price. If it sells at this price, production is sustainable.
This is only possible in our very small factory which we built from pieces of the former Agfa research dept. We are talking quantities here which are a fraction of what efke did and needed to do in order to support their operation in the size it was. They were small compared to Ilford and Kodak but are also quite large compared to us.
For efke this is not an option because on a higher price level turnover will fall and both will lead to the same outcome: Not being able to recover running costs from sales or even think about profit.
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Mirko I for one would be willing to pay more for similar products to EFKE 50 and EMAK Matt emphasis on Matt paper.
If not Efke 50 then maybe an ISOPAN or Super Sensitive Panachromatic substitute
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Same as Dominik, I would be willing to pay more for similar products.
But sadly, Mirko is right. Most people WON'T pay more for the same or similar products. Everyone has been conditioned to count pennies like they are made of gold. Even when they are only hurting themselves in the log run. I realize that for some this is out of necessity. No argument in those cases.
But for those that are able to pay more, but just can't bring themselves to do it, well, you get what you pay for. Or won't pay for.
"Some photographers are the poets of purple mountains' majesty. Some are the poets of the placid suburbs. Weegee is the poet of small-timers who died face down on a city pavement at 3 a.m. in a pool of their own blood."
— Richard Lacayo, Photography: Dames! Stiffs! Mugs!, Time Magazine, January 12, 1998
I agree with you, Ken. But I have a perspective of both not being able to buy film other than old outdated stuff, or the really inexpensive hot deals at Freestyle, etc to happily shooting (almost) nothing but TMax 400 for a few years. I can honestly say that when I paid more for my film, I appreciated it more, and saw it more as an investment in both myself, and the industry.
Originally Posted by Ken Nadvornick
If nobody buys the higher priced, but higher quality, products, then we will be stuck with the low quality / low price products that people pay for. It's as simple as that, really.
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Mirko, I have been shooting Efke 25 in 8x10, 11x14 and on special order 8x20. Currently the FP4+ is $100.00 US a box more. I'd be willing to pay more to keep the 25 alive. I guess it is how much more? It is my main film and gives me what I need for my carbon transfer work. The look is what I do not want to loose. Hopefully you can keep the 25 alive. I will support it.