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    I do wonder if we will ever see another ISO 25 film like Efke. I love that film and I have stocked up as much as I could on short notice but I don't honestly think the chances are very high that it will ever come back. I do sincerely hope that the employees in Croatia who worked at Fotokemika are able to find good jobs.

    Someone in this post (or another one that I have read recently) said that the time to be stocking up was not after the news of the company's demise was being trumpeted across the internet. That is a very true statement. I was able to buy a bit of extra Efke 25 film, but certainly not as much as I would have liked. So I have decided to begin stocking up on some of the other films I enjoy using. I can afford to buy a little extra film each month to slowly build my stock. I sincerely hope that these other companies do not go out of business, but hopefully I will have some extra on hand if it ever does happen.

    And I am going to start learning how to create my own emulsions and coating my own film and paper. I have bought Ron Mowrey's book and DVD, and I will try to attend one of his workshops. I have no misconception that any film that I can create in my own kitchen will be anything like the wonderful films that we can buy right now, but at least I will be able to continue to shoot film if the unthinkable does happen. Besides, being able to mix it, coat it, shoot it, develop it and print it completely from scratch has to be an awesome feeling.

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    A point you miss is that the EFKE 25 uses an old emulsion formula which gives results similar to ISO 100 films of today from Kodak, Ilford and Fuji. It is just a matter of testing the film / developer combination to find the best one for your application. Quit moaning and start testing. And, don't forget that most of these modern ISO 100 film can be overexposed at 50 and 25 with very good results.

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    Interestingly EFKE 25 and Tmax 100 when tested side by side give me the same effective 50 EI with daylight, same development times and print at the same grade. That's how I've used both films for many years until Tmax was no longer available (where I was located). Tmax 100 at 100 EI is a stop under exposed if you want decent shadow detail.

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    Fotokemika was plagued with qc problems but it seems people forgot it.
    I will not miss Fotokemika's Efke...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Photo Engineer View Post
    A point you miss is that the EFKE 25 uses an old emulsion formula which gives results similar to ISO 100 films of today from Kodak, Ilford and Fuji.
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    Hello PE. This is interesting, do you know if this is the case of Foma films too?

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    I just bought 5 boxes 35mm efke 100 two weeks ago, in order to start testing for eventually start using it regularly for ~100 iso shooting..

    I guess there's no need to make that a project now, hehe!


    Instead I ordered 3x17 meters of Rollei/Agfa Retro 80s, to do the same testing with (found dirt cheap at macodirect that has expired some months ago only).

    Apparently developing using HC-110, this film will without problems reach Ei160 with a smooth and clean result. And it seems it works just as fine with EI25 too using Rollei RLS developer.

    http://www.fotoskoda.cz/eobchod/mult...i_retro80s.pdf


    For EI ~400 I use Fomapan 400, shooting at EI320 and developing using Fomadon LQN, with great results!
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    The misconception is that EFKE emulsions are old style emulsions, in fact they were the first of the newer thin coated emulsions but of course 60 years on they are behind in many ways particulary in terms of the coating lines..

    I began using EFKE Kb/R14 back in the mid 1970's and have never had a QC issue, I still have a small amount left maybe 3 of boxes 1/4 plate/5x4 and 10x8. However around the time that Kodak dropped B&W papers, Agfa pulled out and Ilford went into voluntary administration film was leaving the EFKE factory with next to no QC mainlt to J&C in the US who wanted every sq inch they could get hold of as people were panic buying. Mirko/Fotoimpex put in his own QC checks before selling EFKE films under his resurrected Adox brand name.

    Foma films are quite different they are modern emulsions and image quality is on a par with Ilford & Kodak, they use modern Tabular grain emulsions for some of their films.

    If you want to see how antiquated the EFKE plant is/was then look for Jim Brownlow's images he shot at the factory when they made & coated his Dye transfer film. That then gives you an idea why repairng the machinery would be a huge costly task, it's at least 60 years old, and has been moved at least twice.

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    To me, trying to buy as much Efkes as possible now is a lost cause, because it will not resurrect Fotokemika, nor it will assure a lifetime supply of their emulsion. At some point we have to face it.
    I won't also support a brand that recently had serious qc issues, never resolved, a brand that doesn't have a corporate site. It speaks for itself.

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    Isn't this the official Fotokemika site?

    http://www.fotokemika.hr/products/0/black-white-films
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felinik View Post
    Isn't this the official Fotokemika site?

    http://www.fotokemika.hr/products/0/black-white-films
    Do you call it a proper website?




 

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