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    If I may take an analogue audio analogy. For over 20 years post the intro of the CD and then MP3 to now downloads the death of vinyl sales was to be imminent. Yes, by the late 90's it was hanging on by a finger hold. But funny thing started to happen and ironically now fueled by the internet and social media. By the mid 2000's vinyl began to see a resurrection in popularity. More and more new vinyl is being made, once closed factories were snapped up for pennies on the dollar by smaller entrepreneurs and reopened in a smaller scale. Record player sales began to notably rise. Sales of used vinyl shot up. Not just aging boomers but the hipness of the younger demographic who are looking for an experience that is different and unique to the now daily drudgery of online life and downloads they partake in. No, none of these folks are going to ditch their digital media downloads and playback devices as such, but they want to get a feeling for what analogue audio gives and the now growing coolness of vinyl. Sharing this growing coolness with friends enhances this experience for them.

    Now nobody in their right mind suggests vinyl playback will reattain its halcyon days of the 70's. But it's being shown to have a lasting and growing pleasurable interest.

    I suggest we will see a similar lasting value for film over the years. No, film won't regain its status of sales and popularity. But it will maintain a useable base and enough so to be profitable all be it on a smaller scale and by design a way to be viable at such . Technology will be its asset in keeping costs of production under control. Ingenuity for this will be maintained by entrepreneurs, techs and engineers for what will be a stable and maybe improving market. There may be fewer sku's in the future but interest will be as in vinyl audio maintained and enhanced as such I think we will see film colour and B&W viable for a long time to come. No it may not ever be dirt cheap, but like vinyl its value will be enhanced and those who use it will value the cost to performance of it.

    Industries change and reshape but many a once doomed industry is still viable today but in a smaller scale and often a more profitable scale for those who partake. If I may make one more example.

    100+ years ago the automobile was a limited production item made by craftsmen. Henry Ford led the ideal of mass production and as such made cars viable to the masses. Hand crafting all but disappeared. Now 100+ years later we see a relative plethora of limited run, specialized and hand crafted for the most part autos. No, they are not a huge market but they see techs, engineers and craftsmen who partake of now do so with generally a healthy profit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rich815 View Post
    I am happy for this thread because I learned about the word "Bloviate".
    Don't forget "tendentious," either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CGW View Post
    Don't forget "tendentious," either.
    It's why we are here, jeenyus.

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    some say there is a future
    some say there isn't ..

    who cares ..

    enjoy it while you have it
    and when you don't, do something else ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by CGW View Post
    Don't forget "tendentious," either.
    Ah yes, excellent. How very sagacious of you to see that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mustafa Umut Sarac View Post
    When the 60 megapixel camera could be found from thrift shop for 1 dollar , I will never use film again
    Don't say that!!

    Right now I can buy a used 3.5 megapixel camera at our little thrift store for $5.00.
    It may be possible that within your lifetime, sir, you may actually find a 60 megapixel camera in a thrift store for 1 dollar.

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    Some entrepreneur will always find a way. Even in the absolute worst case scenario I believe a bio-printer could be slightly modified to lay down perfectly uniform photographic emulsions (films and papers). That would create an industry similar to the growing artisan cheese industry where small shops begin outputting a variety of emulsions with only a small workshop required.

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    What are we going to do with all that plastic and metal when film is no longer available? That's a question you don't often hear. What about the environment!

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    Now wouldn't that be fascinating? We go to PE's emulsion class, learn all the tricks of emulsion making, go home, mix up a batch, pour it into our bio-printer, program it, and make cheap 20x24 sheets of film. Or, maybe we buy a pint of the Arista Bio-Printer Code-a-Chrome 25 emulsion, and coat it on any film base we like. I like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean View Post
    Some entrepreneur will always find a way. Even in the absolute worst case scenario I believe a bio-printer could be slightly modified to lay down perfectly uniform photographic emulsions (films and papers). That would create an industry similar to the growing artisan cheese industry where small shops begin outputting a variety of emulsions with only a small workshop required.
    Not sure about yours, but artisanal cheese here isn't uniformly wonderful and I suspect film would be the same.

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