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    Silverglow - I deal a lot with mfg corps and I certainly don't know any that are run by what you describe as liberal-socialist think tanks. Quite the opposite. The trend nowadays is utter CEO totalitarianism. Then that guy stacks the office with MBA's who know even less than he does about
    the business, just to make himself look good. Ever watch, "Rodney Dangerfield goes back to School?"
    Just like that. 75 and hundred year old mfg concerns which has weathered just about every storm
    imaginable don't seem to last more than 6 months to a couple years with a jerk at the helm.

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    Yeah, and it would be ironic if Kodak sells off their consumer film division just to see someone else make a real profit at it, simply because it becomes their primary business rather than just another cog in the wheel unsuccessfully trying to flatter the stock market.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DREW WILEY View Post
    Yeah, and it would be ironic if Kodak sells off their consumer film division just to see someone else make a real profit at it, simply because it becomes their primary business rather than just another cog in the wheel unsuccessfully trying to flatter the stock market.
    I have personally experienced a company shut down an entire division rather than accept a generous outside offer on the assumption that the buyer might make it successful and "embarrass" the sellers.
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    I've found that EK middle management and VPs to be reasonable normal people. I've found the top 3 or 4 people 9with one or two exceptions) to be brusque and somewhat dictatorial people. They had an aristocratic mien.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wblynch View Post
    I have personally experienced a company shut down an entire division rather than accept a generous outside offer on the assumption that the buyer might make it successful and "embarrass" the sellers.
    Crazy!!

    These kind of stupidities goes all the way back to small companies too, I've been working the last 7-8 years as a consultant for companies with 3-10 people, and sometimes it makes me wonder how things can go so wrong with so few people....
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    they enses up where they are, because that's where they wanted to be, out of the analog business.unfortunately, they missed to be inthe digital business in the meantime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felinik View Post
    These kind of stupidities goes all the way back to small companies too
    Most small business owners struggle on for years thinking that success is just around the corner.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DREW WILEY View Post
    Silverglow - I deal a lot with mfg corps and I certainly don't know any that are run by what you describe as liberal-socialist think tanks. Quite the opposite. The trend nowadays is utter CEO totalitarianism. Then that guy stacks the office with MBA's who know even less than he does about
    the business, just to make himself look good. Ever watch, "Rodney Dangerfield goes back to School?"
    Just like that. 75 and hundred year old mfg concerns which has weathered just about every storm
    imaginable don't seem to last more than 6 months to a couple years with a jerk at the helm.
    The trick is to get a good "jerk" at the helm...Steve Jobs was a jerk, but a good jerk ;-)

    But I hear you...having a strong dictator is really bad when that person is stupid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Smith View Post
    Most small business owners struggle on for years thinking that success is just around the corner.

    Steve.
    Yep, and most of the ones I've been working with are dreaming about becoming filthy rich, so much that they somewhat forget what the core values of what they do _actually_ are and stand for...
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    Silverglow - Indeed, the quality of the CEO has a lot to do with the sucess of the company. When
    choosing what manufacturers to represent, an interview with the CEO is often paramount to the
    choices. A good one is not a jerk. He will want to hear issues from potential distributors like me, will
    have a good handle on the quality control chain, and above all, will LISTEN to his own experienced staff. Those kinds are in a distinct minority. A CEO who thinks he is God and terrorizes his own people is an almost certain sign of a company about to get into deep trouble. Unfortunately, these types gravitate toward publicly traded companies and their golden-parachute contracts. That's why, whenever possible, I deal will privately-held manufacturers! And some very big sucessful corporations are privately held. Analogies like Steve Jobs are rather unrealistic in most mfg scenarios. Better to have level heads who have worked their way up thru the system and know the
    ropes. Cutting-edge electronics tech is a little different game, and a damn risky bar fight for Kodak
    to get into unless they carefully sustained their existing income base. They obviously didn't.

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