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    Shouldnt Kodak Make Film Cameras?

    Since there are virtually no reasonably priced film cameras in production now, shouldnt Kodak make some nice film cameras as a way to promote film? Or is that a hopeless, lost cause? I'm thinking about what Fujifilm is doing with their Klasse cameras. Something in the $400 range that can really get maximum results from good quality film.

    Of course, Kodak should have done this 5 years ago. Now may be too late.

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    no. coupla reasons.

    There's no money in them. cameras were always a loss-leader for kodak because there was an 85 percent profit margin on film. It has no idea how to make a really good camera, which would be the only point, seeing as how Holga has the crap market wrapped up.

    Plus, anything it made would be overpriced junk compared to the $50 Nikkormats littering auction sites and thrift stores.

    KEH sells SLR Leicas for less than $200. nuf sed?

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    They already make and sell millions of them - they are called "disposable" cameras.

    And apparently they have remained as a source of profits.

    It would make more sense for them to have Cosina manufacture something badged with the Kodak name.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MattKing View Post
    They already make and sell millions of them - they are called "disposable" cameras.

    And apparently they have remained as a source of profits.

    It would make more sense for them to have Cosina manufacture something badged with the Kodak name.
    Well yes, that is what I meant. I know that Kodak can't make anything now like a camera. But they would have to get the ball rolling, spec out a nice decent film camera and then MARKET THE HELL OUT OF IT.

    Keeping film in front of the public's eye is mandatory to keeping film ALIVE.

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    I don't think anyone can make a profit out of selling new cameras today when the market is overflowing with excellent second hand cameras at next to nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesper View Post
    I don't think anyone can make a profit out of selling new cameras today when the market is overflowing with excellent second hand cameras at next to nothing.
    How does Fujifilm do it? I mean really, why is it that Fujifilm can do things right but Kodak cant? Fuji doesnt even sell that camera outside of Japan, yet you see a dozen eBay sellers shipping them all over the world.

    Can't can't can't is all you hear when it comes to Kodak.

    Making a profit on cameras isnt the point. Keeping film in the public's eye is. How can film survive if it is invisible?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattKing View Post
    They already make and sell millions of them - they are called "disposable" cameras.
    Actually, they're not. They are called single use cameras. I have no idea why they get called disposable as you don't throw them away after use.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Smith View Post
    Actually, they're not. They are called single use cameras. I have no idea why they get called disposable as you don't throw them away after use.

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    They get recycled, dismantled and many of the parts re-used. Hence theya ren't disposable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesper View Post
    I don't think anyone can make a profit out of selling new cameras today when the market is overflowing with excellent second hand cameras at next to nothing.
    Somehow, Cosina does.
    I do use a digital device in my photographic pursuits when necessary.
    When someone rags on me for using film, I use a middle digit, upraised.

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    The idea is that the camera is not the profit item, the film is. Just like the old Gillett days. Razors were free, but had to keep buying blades, which were the profit item.
    I don't think it would do much for Kodak though, as digital is firmly entrenched. Also, even digital cameras aren't selling as well due to camera phones. I understand the P&S digicam market is shrinking due to phones.
    IMHO, there is no profit in the digital camera market. It has shifted to the software and tablet market. I think that's why Kodak shifted to the printer market. Sell printers so you can sell LOTS of cartridges. Unfortunately, they are late in the market which is already saturated. If I was CEO of Kodak, I'd quit - I sure don't know what they can do.
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