Nikon Photo contest held since 1969 will not accept film images anymore

[StoneNYC]

Canons have that feature too don't they? Taking a picture during video?


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[daleeman]

Anyone get a direct email or snailmail address to send the nasty notes to about no film images submissions yet?

[Michel Hardy-Vallée]

<Devil's advocate>

In the olden days, many photography contest would ask you for your NEGATIVE, for every image you submitted. On the one hand, this was to ensure the authenticity of images. On the other hand it was a stinkin' idea since these negatives would most of the time get lost, so that your prize-winner ended up a hapax legomenon (one of a kind).

In them modern times, you ask for camera files in order to reduce the probability of cheating, using EXIF and other file metadata to authenticate the photo. With a scan or a retouched image, you have none of this, so your image could be "borrowed" from somewhere else. As Nikon does not feel like evaluating negatives/slides anymore, they're only accepting camera files.

</Devil's advocate>

That said, EXIF can be fudged by people in the know, just like negatives could be duplicated by people in the know.

But people who are so technically proficient usually don't participate to photography contests.

http://www.nikon.com/news/2012/1025_contest_01.htm


•Eligible Works
•Categories A and B
•Image data files created with digital cameras (including medium- and large-format cameras). Images that have been retouched using software or by other means will be accepted. Both color and monochrome images will be accepted. (Scans of photographs taken with film cameras are not eligible.)

Nikon makes the greatest 35mm SLR of all time, and then, while still producing it, will not allow it's users to submit thier photos to Nikon's own contest.

That's not right.

[Rudeofus]

<Devil's advocate>In them modern times, you ask for camera files in order to reduce the probability of cheating, using EXIF and other file metadata to authenticate the photo. With a scan or a retouched image, you have none of this, so your image could be "borrowed" from somewhere else. As Nikon does not feel like evaluating negatives/slides anymore, they're only accepting camera files.
</Devil's advocate>

Devil's Advocate forgot an important line in their rules:

Images that have been retouched using software or by other means will be accepted.

You can submit manipulated images, but the original source had to be a digital camera. This makes a strong case for the suggestion of others, that Nikon rigs their competition towards their own digital gear and that this whole thing is nothing but a marketing ploy, and definitely not a serious contest.

The most devious thing you can do to these things is: ignore them. These contests are a marketing campaign and will fail, if fewer good images are submitted. Throwing a tantrum about this will only help them, since common people will only hear "film bad film bad Nikon digital Nikon digital Nikon digital". What they should hear instead is "Nikon contest digital yawn"!

[jnanian]

who cares ?

photography has been retouched, altered and manipulated since the dawn of photography.

if you were going to submit an image to their contest i can see why you might be upset.
why not submit a question about if they are going to have a nikon FILM contest ...

this thread is more of the same old same old ... digital v analog whining and complaining.

[lxdude]

this thread is more of the same old same old ... digital v analog whining and complaining.

No, it's about being summarily excluded for not using digital.

[Prof_Pixel]

No, it's about being summarily excluded for not using digital.

If it's OK to 'summarily exclude' digital discussions in this Forum, why does Nikon not have the right to 'summarily exclude' analog capture in their contest?

[Stephanie Brim]

If it's OK to 'summarily exclude' digital discussions in this Forum, why does Nikon not have the right to 'summarily exclude' analog capture in their contest?

They do. We just have the right to be pissed off at them for doing it.

[BrianShaw]

... so was anyone planning on submitting works to their contest, or is this an emotional/academic/civil rights discussion?

[PKM-25]

If it's OK to 'summarily exclude' digital discussions in this Forum, why does Nikon not have the right to 'summarily exclude' analog capture in their contest?

Because it is offensive...

There is no reason to exclude film photographers from a contest and frankly a lot of us are sick and tired of film and film based users being the butt of jokes, ridiculed, technically over-compared and now excluded. Digital is so overhyped it is simply disgusting at this point, the stupid death knells for film being heard over and over again when as a matter of fact, talented photographers, not techno-nerds who only care about the science and technology, are using film for their work, often along side digital as I do.

I could continue to use digital too as I have for nearly 20 years, but it's the attitude around it that makes me want to vomit. I hope to be done with it in less than 5 years and be all film only...

Nikon is alienating people here and I hope they change this fast, I wrote NPS about it last night, no response yet...