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    If Ilford keeps up this level of support, I might have to take another look at Ilford film. I tried Ilford HP5+ for my photography class a couple years ago and found it was really grainy (like looking at a photo with sand on top of it). My supply of Legacy Pro is running out, and I am looking for a replacement. The FP4 looks promising, as does the PanF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by madgardener View Post
    If Ilford keeps up this level of support, I might have to take another look at Ilford film. I tried Ilford HP5+ for my photography class a couple years ago and found it was really grainy (like looking at a photo with sand on top of it). My supply of Legacy Pro is running out, and I am looking for a replacement. The FP4 looks promising, as does the PanF.
    They are pretty solid, perhaps the developer you used at the time wasn't good for the film?

    I just received an email from them today on an issue I found on their site, very nice people, solid company, devoted, I used to want to say "oh I shot on this and this" and wanted to hit all the films that might go away soon, and then I realized I was just getting inconsistent results because I wasn't devoting to a product line to learn and perfect it. Ilford is obviously the current leader in B&W and by leader I mean only profitable company, so even if its not EK it's still in the black, so that's the more solid bet. Their film is really great. I laugh because everyone talks about grain but not as much about (gah!!! I can't spell the word!!! And auto correct doesn't know what I'm trying for....) ACUTENCE (sp?) I found recently that though Acros was a finer grain than HP5, the comparative images looked sharper on HP5 because the edge detail wasn't as blurred. I used DD-X so perhaps Acros responds to Fuji developer better, but even HP5 I would pick in normal light over Acros, I use Acros for night exposures only.

    It's all what you use.

    Also how long ago was this? Remember ilford now has PLUS on all their films, the improved versions...


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    Ilford's Delta 100 is supposed to be very similar to Acros. You might give it a try.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wblynch View Post
    Ilford's Delta 100 is supposed to be very similar to Acros. You might give it a try.
    With a 2 minute reciprocity failure rate? I think not... Lol, if I need a low ASA I use Pan F+ the only need for 100ASA for me is the night stuff usually. Nothing can beat that rate...


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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneNYC View Post
    They are pretty solid, perhaps the developer you used at the time wasn't good for the film?


    It's all what you use.

    Also how long ago was this? Remember ilford now has PLUS on all their films, the improved versions...


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    Ok, I cut a lot of this post out, but in general to answer the questions, the class I took was 3 years ago. The school was using the Sprint brand of chemicals, which wasn't too bad. Its when I tried developing at home that the grain was really bad. I was using Arista developer (just the regular stuff). I still have a couple rolls in the freezer and intend to try it again with some HC-110, and see what happens.

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    If you need ISO 400 and HP5+ is too grainy, try Delta 400 if you want to use Ilford.

    All Ilford films that I have used have been excellent. I use FP4+ and Pan F+ regularly in 120, and D3200 occasionally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by madgardener View Post
    Ok, I cut a lot of this post out, but in general to answer the questions, the class I took was 3 years ago. The school was using the Sprint brand of chemicals, which wasn't too bad. Its when I tried developing at home that the grain was really bad. I was using Arista developer (just the regular stuff). I still have a couple rolls in the freezer and intend to try it again with some HC-110, and see what happens.
    I would try DD-X. Seems to give very nice sharp grain.

    http://www.apug.org/gallery1/showima...mageuser=59230

    That's HP5

    If you aren't a subscriber you can't use the link... So... Be a subscriber!! Lol

    Or just see this instead.



    It's a long exposure which should introduce more grain and its pretty non-grainy.


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    Is that from medium format as the square appears to be? It would take a pretty grainy film to show grain in that display resolution from medium format. Heck, I have Delta 3200 negatives, shot at 3200, that hardly show any in that size. Not saying you aren't right, just that it isn't going to mean much in viewing that image.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger Cole View Post
    Is that from medium format as the square appears to be? It would take a pretty grainy film to show grain in that display resolution from medium format. Heck, I have Delta 3200 negatives, shot at 3200, that hardly show any in that size. Not saying you aren't right, just that it isn't going to mean much in viewing that image.



    OK yes it's 6x7 from my Mamiya 7, I think a 2 or 4 second exposure. Shot @400 and developed @400 in DD-X scanned at 2400dpi exported with no sharpening, I haven't touched the image at all except a crop that can be 1:1 and wouldn't be re-sized by APUG limitations, in a section that was plain color to show the grain structure best. (except watermark which I'm paranoid and just had to do...)


    Hope this is acceptable now that I'm at a computer I can do it.

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    Ok, when I run out of the HC110 I'll try the DD-X . My budget is usually pretty tight, as is my bathr...darkroom. I'm by no means an expert, but I do want to take nice pictures.

    Thank you for the tips. The FP4+ is really catching my eye right now. My next order to freestyle may include a couple rolls.



 

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