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    Emerging Kodak

    While it's so nice to have so many threads about the bleak future of Kodak, maybe we could dedicate one thread to hopeful news on Kodak emerging from chapter 11.

    I'll start: http://www.pr-inside.com/multi-touch...t-r3570023.htm

    So worry not, there will be coating happening in the future and while the machines churn out film for use in phones and pads and lcd screens, maybe once a year they might also run a batch of film for photography and cinema!
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    Sorry to put a downer on your thread, but this is a very different type of film. 'Conductive film coating' for 'touch panels and related applications'.
    Nothing to do with the light sensitive emulsion we so enjoy.

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    Another downer would be that this is not actually new technolgy. At least I don't see new technology in this.

    Agfa has been coating film with PEDOT for years. Furthermore they make PEDOT, including as screen printing ink.
    Kodak in contrast would do customized pattern coating. But this would just be job-coating (on their own base film) to my understanding.


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    Maybe the novelty lies in etching a full area coated film instead of screen printing it, to form that pattern.
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    Quote Originally Posted by batwister View Post
    Sorry to put a downer on your thread, but this is a very different type of film. 'Conductive film coating' for 'touch panels and related applications'.
    Nothing to do with the light sensitive emulsion we so enjoy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by batwister View Post
    Sorry to put a downer on your thread, but this is a very different type of film. 'Conductive film coating' for 'touch panels and related applications'.
    Nothing to do with the light sensitive emulsion we so enjoy.
    Nah, the main point wasn't so much whether or not this tech has anything to do with photographic film per se, but rather on the fact that Kodak is involved in some research and production of technologies which aren't too tightly connected to photography but to other large business areas instead. This is important, because we have seen that Fuji is nowadays a company which produces even makeup products (http://www.fujifilm.com/news/n111205.html). It's for the best of us if these giants find other revenue streams in addition to traditional film business because we do know that focusing purely on photography and downsizing won't be possible due to the large coating lines and the cost of manufacturing new smaller machines.

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    Not to be Mr. Negative [pun intended] but I doubt other profitable aspects of their business will be allowed to 'fund' photographic production. It's either profitable on its own or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobwysiwyg View Post
    Not to be Mr. Negative [pun intended] but I doubt other profitable aspects of their business will be allowed to 'fund' photographic production. It's either profitable on its own or not.
    That would be the case if film production, makeup and electronic film products were totally unconnected. However, because they share some parts (chemicals, coating, production lines, distribution) producing other stuff that is wanted keeps the production lines running and thus makes the losses of having equipment unused smaller.

    Thus it is like a factory producing wooden household items: if at some point there isn't as much demand for wooden stools, they might keep the production running at a smaller portion of stools being produced of the whole capacity but they can have the machines work on some other wooden articles as well. Stools are still profitable, but only doing wooden stools isn't -- widening the catalog is sometimes necessary.

    Film is still very much profitable and large business, but only producing film is bad idea. Innovations should be used broadly (Btw, Harman does this too: http://www.harmantechnology.com/DotN...5/Default.aspx)

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobwysiwyg View Post
    Not to be Mr. Negative [pun intended] but I doubt other profitable aspects of their business will be allowed to 'fund' photographic production. It's either profitable on its own or not.
    I don't think this is true at all. The digital imaging and printer aspect of Kodak was sucking everything else dry for many years before it caught up with them.

    IIRC they also shifted losses, costs and profits around to other areas.

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    Emerging with these results to "build on:"


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sal Santamaura View Post
    Emerging with these results to "build on:"


    Wow. it just keeps getting worse.

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