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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneNYC View Post
    So can we get together and have them make some more paper and chemistry to print chromes again?

    Also, anyone know if Kodak still has the capability to produce Verichrome? if there were a large special order?
    Ilford doesn't do colour.

    And there have been an awful lot of equipment and constituent chemistry changes since Verichrome was made.

    There has even been a lot of equipment and constituent chemistry changes since Verichrome Pan was made.

    Even for current products, Kodak has very large minimum quantity requirements for special orders (such as unusual sizes).
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    Quote Originally Posted by MattKing View Post
    Ilford doesn't do colour.

    And there have been an awful lot of equipment and constituent chemistry changes since Verichrome was made.

    There has even been a lot of equipment and constituent chemistry changes since Verichrome Pan was made.

    Even for current products, Kodak has very large minimum quantity requirements for special orders (such as unusual sizes).
    Ilford is two parts, related only by name. Harman, that operates Ilford Photo and Kentmere. Then there's a company (in Switzerland I think) that makes inkjet paper. The 'other' Ilford used to make Ilfochrome paper and chemistry, up until about half a year ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thomas Bertilsson View Post
    Ilford is two parts, related only by name. Harman, that operates Ilford Photo and Kentmere. Then there's a company (in Switzerland I think) that makes inkjet paper. The 'other' Ilford used to make Ilfochrome paper and chemistry, up until about half a year ago.
    Agreed - but as far as I know the only Ilford that does custom coating is the black-and-white Ilford.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MattKing View Post
    Agreed - but as far as I know the only Ilford that does custom coating is the black-and-white Ilford.
    Yeah, who knows if they even coat anything at all at the Swiss Ilford. I guess everything has a price. Had somebody very rich stepped up and offered them enough money to continue making Ilfochrome, I bet they would. But that kind of demand just wasn't there for them towards the end, evidently. I think it was only a handful or two labs towards the end that actually offered Ilfochrome printing service.

    Anyway, let's get back to Arista Premium and Kodak.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thomas Bertilsson View Post
    Ilford is two parts, related only by name. Harman, that operates Ilford Photo and Kentmere. Then there's a company (in Switzerland I think) that makes inkjet paper. The 'other' Ilford used to make Ilfochrome paper and chemistry, up until about half a year ago.
    Actually both are related by history. The part that bears the name Ilford the shorter time is legally the true Ilford as since long it is their company name. Ilford Photo is actually only a brand name of the other company, though historically the older Ilford, but lost Ilford as company name.

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    No more Arista Premium 400? Hmm......

    Thanks Matt, Thomas, AgX.

    I knew I wasn't totally crazy, I remembered ilfochrome being mentioned more than once in regard to chrome papers.

    What about the chemistry? I have a guy who will make me a few chrome prints, because he has lots of paper, but has NO chemistry to process it... Who makes that?

    PS had no idea Kentmere was also Ilford. Hmmm...




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    The print-chemistries were made by Ilford. They are now stated as discontinued.

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    well, Freestyle mentioned on Facebook that the LAST of the Arista Premium 400 has left the building
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    Quote Originally Posted by cmacd123 View Post
    well, Freestyle mentioned on Facebook that the LAST of the Arista Premium 400 has left the building
    That's very sad to hear. What a good film that students and educators could afford. This will change things as I don't think the edu/foma films are comparable and the real deal is quite over priced. What's to fill the gap now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Newt_on_Swings View Post
    That's very sad to hear. What a good film that students and educators could afford. This will change things as I don't think the edu/foma films are comparable and the real deal is quite over priced. What's to fill the gap now?
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