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    Just an update, a little comparison. http://www.tuaw.com/2013/06/27/why-r...-may-not-have/

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    THAT is simultaneously hilarious... and so sad...

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    "There is very limited audience for the arty stuff, and it is largely comprised of other arty types, most of whom have no money to spend because no one is buying their stuff either. More people bring their emotions to an image than bring their intellect. The former are the folks who have checkbooks because they are engineers, accountants, and bankers—and generally they are engineers, accountants and bankers because they are not artists."

    — Amanda Tomlin, Looking Glass Magazine, 2014

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    Has anyone else but me, one actually from Chicago, commented to this thread? Must be easy for you all to take this recent change and make big assumptions of media, photojournalism, etc....

    However, something you all have failed to address is the difference in these papers.....

    The Tribube is a much different paper than the Sun Times....before this change....

    Nothing here surprises me....

    Correlation....causality...bla..bla...

    Again, I mean no disrespect to those affected in my community...I am just not surprised by the actions of the Sun Times.....now if the Trib did this....I'd be "sky-is-falling"....
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    Still, the assumption would certainly have to be that the Sun-Times, once the determination has been made to run a photo with a story, would still be choosing the best photo they had available, right? I mean, they wouldn't intentionally be selecting worse than the best available. At least I hope not, regardless of their market niche.

    Since you are from Chicago and are apparently familiar with the paper, did they have a pattern of intentionally running poor photography before all of this happened? And if so, why then would there have been a Pulitzer Prize award winner on that staff?

    Ken
    "There is very limited audience for the arty stuff, and it is largely comprised of other arty types, most of whom have no money to spend because no one is buying their stuff either. More people bring their emotions to an image than bring their intellect. The former are the folks who have checkbooks because they are engineers, accountants, and bankers—and generally they are engineers, accountants and bankers because they are not artists."

    — Amanda Tomlin, Looking Glass Magazine, 2014

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    The Sun Tines photography was top notch before this change....
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    The headline "CUP OF CHEER" under that image is an absolute master piece and a clear sign, that the remaining staff at Sun Times is quite unhappy about the sacking of their photo journalists.
    Trying to be the best of whatever I am, even if what I am is no good.

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    That's a rather stark difference. Badly timed snapshot vs "in the thick of the celebrations". I'd be embarrassed to show anyone that first photo if I'd been responsible for it, and I'm no photojournalist.

    At least it wasn't a tall-screen 9:16 format super-wobbly-cam video clip... video is great, but only when it's shot properly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rudeofus View Post
    The headline "CUP OF CHEER" under that image is an absolute master piece and a clear sign, that the remaining staff at Sun Times is quite unhappy about the sacking of their photo journalists.

    I suspect the attitude is actually: "Better them than me."

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    The Sun-Times has been in and out of bankruptcy and is essentially trash now. It's garbage, has been for at least a decade. Used to be a great paper. It's not long for this world. The Tribune is a notch above, but miles below the New York Times.

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    Is the Sun-Times not even buying freelance work? Because there's a lot of people out there who could have taken a better picture than what they ran.
    I do use a digital device in my photographic pursuits when necessary.
    When someone rags on me for using film, I use a middle digit, upraised.

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