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    You've hit the nail on the head?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Nadvornick View Post
    When your cool, new-age, high-tech business model says you must fire Pulitzer Prize award winning staff photographers and replace them with random teenagers with IPhone video cameras who just happened to be walking by, I think it tells you all you need to know about the intellectual and technological Walmart-ization of not just the newspaper industry, but of your very culture itself.

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    Take a look.

    http://petapixel.com/2013/05/31/sun-...s/#more-112896
    “We are buried beneath the weight of information, which is being confused with knowledge; quantity is being confused with abundance and wealth with happiness.
    We are monkeys with money and guns.”

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    Fair enough Ken. I'm pretty aware of scatter charts btw, in fact motion charts (search Hans Rosling), the old scatter chart has even changed....

    I guess I'm merely saying, technology sure changes the workforce. I am sad for the local photog's affected, but media, is always rapidly evolving though. I tend to think at a slower pace then when say Gutenberg hit the scene a few years back....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mainecoonmaniac View Post
    You've hit the nail on the head?
    And this: How the Internet Killed Photojournalism.

    "Glut of imagery + short attention span = the demise of an industry. Laying off the entire Sun-Times staff probably isn’t necessary, but it’s convenient. Now you have 20 starving photographers who are desperate for freelance work earning a low day rate with no benefits.

    "Blaming the situation solely on the increased demand for video content is a ruse by management to wipe the slate clean. The truth is that they are reacting to the harsh realities of the journalism business nowadays, where profits trump newsmaking."

    Ken
    "When making a portrait, my approach is quite the same as when I am portraying a rock. I do not wish to impose my personality upon the sitter, but, keeping myself open to receive reactions from his own special ego, record this with nothing added: except of course when I am working professionally, when money enters in,—then for a price, I become a liar..."

    — Edward Weston, Daybooks, Vol. II, February 2, 1932

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Nadvornick View Post
    ... the harsh realities of the journalism business nowadays, where profits trump newsmaking."

    Judging from the large number of newspapers that have gone out of business in the last few years, there isn't much profit to be made in that line of business.

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    They do it to themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Nadvornick View Post
    And this: How the Internet Killed Photojournalism.

    ...short attention span...

    Ken
    This is true, and it's what worries me.

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    Last edited by zsas; 05-31-2013 at 06:39 PM. Click to view previous post history. Reason: Double post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom1956 View Post
    They do it to themselves.
    ^Or did we also change too to the same thing? I quit my Tribune subscription years back, I check the Trib on their nifty (free) iPhone app..love their PJ's....
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    I wonder just how many people here actually subscribe to their daily local paper.


    (For the record, I do.)

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    I did for over 20 years at my current location. Finally threw in the towel and canceled when they gutted the paper to the point I couldn't get any real news out of the thing.

    They stopped covering international news. Then they largely stopped covering national news. They shrank, then eliminated the editorial pages (my favorite). And the comics. Then they shrank the physical size of the paper itself. They continually reduced the remaining local-only "news" coverage. About all that was left was stories about whether we should have red light ticketing cameras near the elementary schools. I needed a little more than that and the high school football scores.

    A few years ago I walked up to the paper's booth at the local state fairgrounds. The girl there said they were soliciting suggestions for improving the paper. I replied, how about start by putting back some real news stories. And the editorials. And the comics. She just stared at me. Apparently better content was not a checkbox on her form.

    Or, more telling...

    I know someone who applied for a software development job at The Seattle Times. Was told the interview was going along great until the question was asked, "Do you prefer to read the news online or on paper?" When the answer was "mostly online, but sometimes it's still really nice to sit down with a real printed newspaper on a Saturday morning" the interview was essentially over. And not with a positive outcome.

    When the newspapers themselves do not even have faith in their own product they have sealed their own fates.

    And yes, there are parallels here...

    Ken
    "When making a portrait, my approach is quite the same as when I am portraying a rock. I do not wish to impose my personality upon the sitter, but, keeping myself open to receive reactions from his own special ego, record this with nothing added: except of course when I am working professionally, when money enters in,—then for a price, I become a liar..."

    — Edward Weston, Daybooks, Vol. II, February 2, 1932



 

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