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    Phew! I thought things were REALLY bad with Harmon about to go under. I didnt realize that there was a second Ilford out there.

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    The Swiss company's website is www.ilford.com

    There is a lot of interesting information on there (in English) - they seem to make a lot of products including Ilfocolor micrographic film and various papers both inkjet and RA4 type. The latter and the film seem to be aimed at specialised business customers. There is also a history of the company and an explanation of how the Swiss company and Harman went in different directions some years back. Harman have a licence to use the Ilford trade mark for black & white photographic products. Thus any inkjet paper branded Ilford these days emanates from the Swiss company.

    The website says the holding company of the Swiss concern is Ilford Group AG. As recently as April of this year they acquired a German company called TECCO GmbH to (quote) "realise its strategic intent of offering leading-edge products, a broad, flexible portfolio and a customer focussed service". So the present situation seems rather strange. Let's hope the Swiss Ilford business can be saved in some form or other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brac View Post
    The Swiss company's website is www.ilford.com

    There is a lot of interesting information on there (in English) - they seem to make a lot of products including Ilfocolor micrographic film and various papers both inkjet and RA4 type.
    Thank you.
    That clears up a personal confusion.

    I'd caught some references to "Ilford" and "color" in the same sentences, and the website I normally look at did not show how it was possible. I knew Ilford was still otherwise around, but lost track of what their products were.

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    This whole "good Ilford"/"Bad Ilford"/"Inkjet paper but not Harman inkjet paper" is extremely confusing and it's very bad marketing.

    Why haven't they gone for a new name upfront? Wilford, Drofli, Ilfird, Elford, Ilfurd, whatever...

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    Well, I'm shooting ilford film, scanning it, and printing to ilford paper, it's just that my money's going to 2 different places. (The most confusing thing is when I go to the film website to get icc-paper profiles, or the paper website to get developing-time datasheets).
    Actually, I'm just in the testing phase of my inkjet printing, I'm leaning towards Moab as my go-to brand. So if Ilford inkjet paper is going down, I won't cry. Maybe I will only if Ilford (the one that makes PanF50 and Delta 3200) goes down.
    An awful lot of electrons were terribly inconvenienced in the making of this post.

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    Dear All,

    As has been clearly explained in the above threads : ILFORD Imaging Switzerland GmbH based in Marly, Switzerland is a completely seperate company from HARMAN technology Limited ( the makers of all branded ILFORD Monochrome film, paper and chemical products ).

    HARMAN technology limited was founded 8 years ago in Mobberley, England and is robustly profitable.

    Simon ILFORD Photo / HARMAN technology Limited :

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon R Galley View Post
    Dear All,

    As has been clearly explained in the above threads : ILFORD Imaging Switzerland GmbH based in Marly, Switzerland is a completely seperate company from HARMAN technology Limited ( the makers of all branded ILFORD Monochrome film, paper and chemical products ).

    HARMAN technology limited was founded 8 years ago in Mobberley, England and is robustly profitable.

    Simon ILFORD Photo / HARMAN technology Limited :
    Thank you, Sir, for confirming what most of us "APUGers" already knew! Now if only one of the rumourmongers at "photorumours.com" would be so kind as to pick up and spread the official word...
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    Dear Simon - if you had simply produced Kentmere Fineprint and MGWT a couple centuries earlier, we would have been perfectly content over
    here and never have claimed independence to begin with ... just be forewarned that if you ever ever discontinue either of these wonderful
    products it will probably constitute grounds for a third world war!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon R Galley View Post
    Dear All,

    As has been clearly explained in the above threads : ILFORD Imaging Switzerland GmbH based in Marly, Switzerland is a completely seperate company from HARMAN technology Limited ( the makers of all branded ILFORD Monochrome film, paper and chemical products ).

    HARMAN technology limited was founded 8 years ago in Mobberley, England and is robustly profitable.

    Simon ILFORD Photo / HARMAN technology Limited :
    Robustly profitable. I like hearing that.
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    Well, I certainly intend to help keep them fat and sassy, even if it makes me a little leaner this month!

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