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    Quote Originally Posted by ME Super View Post
    Yes it would. By the way, I love the pun, (reversal, as in reversal film) whether it was intended or not.
    It was...

    Absolutely didn't think anyone would catch that.



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    "When making a portrait, my approach is quite the same as when I am portraying a rock. I do not wish to impose my personality upon the sitter, but, keeping myself open to receive reactions from his own special ego, record this with nothing added: except of course when I am working professionally, when money enters in,—then for a price, I become a liar..."

    — Edward Weston, Daybooks, Vol. II, February 2, 1932

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Nadvornick View Post
    It was...

    Absolutely didn't think anyone would catch that.



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    I did, but let it slide.




    OK, I have to admit I didn't- I'm sure you would have seen the mounting transparency of that lie.
    I do use a digital device in my photographic pursuits when necessary.
    When someone rags on me for using film, I use a middle digit, upraised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lxdude View Post
    I did, but let it slide.




    OK, I have to admit I didn't- I'm sure you would have seen the mounting transparency of that lie.
    Oi!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lxdude View Post
    I did, but let it slide.

    OK, I have to admit I didn't- I'm sure you would have seen the mounting transparency of that lie.
    You are the Master, I am merely the unworthy Grasshopper...



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    "When making a portrait, my approach is quite the same as when I am portraying a rock. I do not wish to impose my personality upon the sitter, but, keeping myself open to receive reactions from his own special ego, record this with nothing added: except of course when I am working professionally, when money enters in,—then for a price, I become a liar..."

    — Edward Weston, Daybooks, Vol. II, February 2, 1932

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Nadvornick View Post
    Wanna' know what would be da' sheeeets?

    If Film Ferrania really was successful in bringing a re-engineered E-6 transparency film back to the market, and it turned out to be a wonderful film.

    And Kodak E-6 was already tanked. Then Fuji E-6 also tanked. Then mainline E-6 was only available from the new Ferrania.
    Once upon a time, Konica produced film. Konica produced 750nm IR film, in 135 and 120, once a year. I had to wait for it, and then snap it up when it came. I used it, and then I waited for the next batch to become available. It was the only 120 IR film available.

    Kodak E6 is gone. Perhaps Fujifilm E6 is going. This would simply mean that Ferrania would have a solid lock on E6. The company would stay afloat, because none of the other manufacturers could make E6 profitably. There is probably enough 120 market to support shipping a master roll of E6 to, say, Ilford to cut and package.

    However, for a MF/LF person like me, I might never use the Ferrania E6. I started with MF, and only used 135 because of Kodak HIE. I'll send them a note and see what they say.

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    If Fuji quits making E6 would Ferrania alone sell enough to justify the continued availability of E6 chems??

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    I'm guessing that the chems are the "cheap" part of E6. Freestyle shows Arista and Tetenal kits. The real difficulty is in the initial film product. If E6 is dropped as a product world-wide, then I'm sure that the kits would be sure to follow in rapid order. A freezer full of E6 means that it isn't being used, and has no need of immediate development. If Ferrania becomes the sole supplier, then E6 chemical developer production would continue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian C. Miller View Post
    This would simply mean that Ferrania would have a solid lock on E6. The company would stay afloat, because none of the other manufacturers could make E6 profitably.
    I'm not sure it's safe to assume that since Fuji and Kodak couldn't make money on E6 film, Ferrania would be able to find the market profitable. It may just be that more likely the E6 market no longer exists at a sustainable level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian C. Miller View Post
    I'm guessing that the chems are the "cheap" part of E6. Freestyle shows Arista and Tetenal kits. The real difficulty is in the initial film product. If E6 is dropped as a product world-wide, then I'm sure that the kits would be sure to follow in rapid order. A freezer full of E6 means that it isn't being used, and has no need of immediate development. If Ferrania becomes the sole supplier, then E6 chemical developer production would continue.
    I always for get to include "6 bath" kit not the 3 bath kit

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    Film from Italy -- Ferrania starting production 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by Prof_Pixel View Post
    I'm not sure it's safe to assume that since Fuji and Kodak couldn't make money on E6 film, Ferrania would be able to find the market profitable. It may just be that more likely the E6 market no longer exists at a sustainable level.
    Well again profit depends on the cost of the machining etc, kodak has a much bigger amount of machines and building costs and so do Fuji... Film Ferrania will have a smaller machine, smaller building costs etc. And probably fewer greedy overpayed management demanding unearned over bloated salaries that suck up all the profit...
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