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    Quote Originally Posted by jnanian View Post
    how is asking "if they still sell film for that" .. "digital is much easier" .. " why don't you get a digital camera so you can do weddings" ... &c "demoralizing and aggressive"
    These are all phrases that imply that the film shooter sort of missed the invention of digital cameras or is somehow incapable to make the "proper" decision to switch. So yes, I would consider these statements slightly aggressive/demeaning, and if heard multiple times, demoralizing. These people neither know nor inquire about the film shooter's body of work, history and reasons for choosing that medium, but somehow feel compelled to dish out pointless advice in a condescending tone.

    The good thing is that there are quite a few things that digital shooters feel insecure about, so it's quite easy to throw mud that will stick in their direction.
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    sorry i still don't see how asking if you can still get film for a film camera is demoralizing
    or how someone asking such questions is aggressive or harsh ...

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    I think it depends on how approachable you are, if you look like aqualung, they might just leave you alone... Lol! Maybe that's the trick! Need to dress up like a bumb and smell like one too!

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    Actually had a conversation with a neighbor about film, as he saw me carrying a box of film and was "Wow, you still do film? Do you have to buy it online?"

    Had a nice 20 min talk about filming and the concert he was going to. Online I had a few people like "When will you join the digital age" then they look at my photos and they shut up. Not that my photos are world beaters, just that they are a step above snap shots.

    Then a lot of people think its cool that I do black and white and they fondly remember taking it in high school or college and learning how to develop film. In fact, the only time I been harassed by shooting was one person who thought I was trust-passing (I was on public right of way, but it wasn't worth fighting over).

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    <<nevermind>>
    Last edited by jnanian; 07-12-2014 at 08:12 PM. Click to view previous post history. Reason: not worth the effort of responding to

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    Quote Originally Posted by jnanian View Post
    sorry i still don't see how asking if you can still get film for a film camera is demoralizing
    or how someone asking such questions is aggressive or harsh ...
    It all depends how the question if phrased. Asking "Where can you get film for this camera?", or stating "I didn't know you can still get film for this camera" is one thing. But asking "You still can get film for this camera???", while this camera is obviously in use with suitable film, contains quite a bit of condescension of the "I can't believe people still use this old junk" or the "give it another year and you'll be SOL with your camera" type. Such "inquiries" are particularly annoying because I don't think Stone asked any of these people for purchasing recommendations or advice in general.

    Imagine how you would react if someone responded to your prints with "Are you really trying to sell these???" vs. "Are these for sale?" ...
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    I was approached by a young lady during or town's fourth of July parade. The first question out of her mouth was "How old is that camera?" I was shooting the Debonair at the time. I told her it is probably older than me. She asked if the photos it took looked vintage. I said yes. I was not offended at all.

    People here diss Instagram, however, I think we have the ability to get square pictures at local photo finishing places because of its existence and insistence on square pictures. Even though I myself do not have an Instagram account, long live Instagram!
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    I'm with Rudeofus and Stone - it's not usually the actual words, it's the tone in which they're delivered. And I got that attitude more from people in camera clubs than on the street / in the woods.
    But I have seen some interesting work on deviantArt from people who might be considered hipsters. And I've seen boring work from all types.

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    LOL

    right rudeofus .. in this thread those weren't the questions being asked / talked about.

    from what was posted, : "do they still sell film for that" .. "digital is much easier" .. " why don't you get a digital camera so you can do weddings"
    were questions asked, not what you suggested, and that is what i was responding to ...

    where in this thread did someone suggest an onlooker called the camera an olde piece of junk, piece of crap, or anything else like that.
    and people say the last sentence to me all the time ( THAT stuff is for sale, you sell THAT stuff .. ? ), both ways you have written it ..
    and i just smile and say YES! it is all for sale ... and i give them my last name and tell them type it in google or yahoo.
    sometimes i ask THEM if i can take their portrait and i go back and give them a print / their portrait or email it to them
    ( have done that a lot ).

    what i find it funny that people want to be "noticed" with a 1940s weird looking exacta or crazy vintage camera
    or a sheet film camera &c looking like answel adams or arthur felig, and when someone asks if the user can "still get film for that old camera"
    they get offended ... its like someone covered with tattoos, piercings, huge guages in their ears,
    and coiled metal around their neck ( like beautiful tribal african women wear )
    or some sort of Tshirt with stuff written on it and they get offended for asking about
    their body-art, tshirt or looking at them wondering what the 5paragraphs tatoo'd on their chest means
    ... again, kind of lame

    yeah analog photography is outdated, and it is expected that people will ask " can you still get film for that "
    its a film camera ...
    and i expect people to ask questions even more so since the main film/paper &c supply company here in the usa that people know about
    has been on the news for years every night and just went bankrupt ...
    not to mention most local camera shops (or drug stores ) don't sell film or paper, or process film &c ...
    obviously people who don't know anything except what they hear from their friends, the news, local camera shops,
    their former drug store mini lab, &c will ask " can you still get film for that "
    and it is too bad people who shoot film feel as though they have to lash out, sling mud &c
    at people asking questions because of clueless-onlookers.
    Last edited by jnanian; 07-13-2014 at 12:22 PM. Click to view previous post history.

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