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    Quote Originally Posted by Chan Tran View Post
    I don't know what's a hipster and what's not but I don't feel so good about the state of film today.
    Really......?

    With all the amazing films we have at still amazing prices?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PKM-25 View Post
    I'm 47 years old, have been known to buy clothes to match my highly personalized Leica M3, use incredibly unorthodox marketing techniques and find great success in drawing people in that results in either new clients or new users of film, the two being of equal importance to me.

    If that makes me a "Hipster" then I am all about it baby!
    When the heck were you at 5pointz???

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneNYC View Post
    When the heck were you at 5pointz???
    Book publishing workshop in Brooklyn last Fall...

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    Well I think film photographers should have their own fashion line and we could perhaps start with:-

    https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Ro...0Y%3B402%3B500

    “The contemplation of things as they are, without error or confusion, without substitution or imposture, is in itself a nobler thing than a whole harvest of invention”

    Francis Bacon

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    Quote Originally Posted by pdeeh View Post
    I'm not sure what purpose it serves to identify other people as "hipsters"; except perhaps to allow "serious photographers" to identify themselves as "serious" in contradistinction to those silly bearded tattooed dilettantes ... it all, sadly, feeds the tendency for derision and contempt of "the others" (those that aren't "us")

    it's just taking photographs. we don't need to be tribal about it
    Categorization is tacit admission that variety exists in the universe. Variety is the natural order of things. Without it, there would be no natural selection and we would all still be one-celled organisms slurping the primordial soup.

    What I take issue with is people who follow the fad of insisting that everyone and everything in the world is exactly the same. Open your eyes. They are not.

    The real problem lies with those who automatically link recognition of variety with discrimination against variety. If I am in a room and a person of differing ethnicity walks in, or differing religion, or differing political party, or differing haircut, I'm not such a dullard as to not notice their differences. Nor am I so ignorant as to be surprised that they do not look or think exactly as I (think) I do.

    My only concern lies with the quality of their character. Good people exist in all varieties. So do bad people. Distinguishing between the two requires interacting with them. Not just looking at them. Or wishing them into being exactly like everyone else.

    Did it ever occur to you that some "hipsters" (or any other variety of persons) might actually like being referred to as such? That they sense nothing pejorative in the reference? The idea here is to celebrate our diversity, not stick our heads into the sand and deny that it exists.

    Just where the heck do you think random distribution bell curves come from?

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    "When making a portrait, my approach is quite the same as when I am portraying a rock. I do not wish to impose my personality upon the sitter, but, keeping myself open to receive reactions from his own special ego, record this with nothing added: except of course when I am working professionally, when money enters in,—then for a price, I become a liar..."

    — Edward Weston, Daybooks, Vol. II, February 2, 1932

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    Quote Originally Posted by David A. Goldfarb View Post
    Will they survive the end of the hipster? I hope so.
    Back to the topic...

    Yes, I do worry a bit. Like everything else in our post-digital culture, things change and revolve much faster, including fads and trends. Noted in a different thread is the fact that the brand new technology which killed off the 100+ year old mass film market (dedicated digital P&Ss), are themselves already largely discarded on the scrap heap of history, supplanted by smartphone cameras.

    Contrast that with my 1955-model Pacemaker Crown Graphic. If I decode the manufacturer's stamp underneath the focus rail crossbar, it tells me my sample was actually made in May, 1968. It also tells me that it's still an original model 'A' revision. That's 13-years without a single model change.

    One thing I've learned is that if you find a product you really like, buy a lifetime supply of it right then and there. In six months it's be remaindered. In a year unobtainable.

    So I do worry that "hipster-dom" may in fact wink out at any moment, thus removing a significant slice of whatever sort of post-digital mass market for film we do currently enjoy. I cannot single-handedly make up that slack.

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    Last edited by Ken Nadvornick; 06-22-2014 at 02:13 PM. Click to view previous post history.
    "When making a portrait, my approach is quite the same as when I am portraying a rock. I do not wish to impose my personality upon the sitter, but, keeping myself open to receive reactions from his own special ego, record this with nothing added: except of course when I am working professionally, when money enters in,—then for a price, I become a liar..."

    — Edward Weston, Daybooks, Vol. II, February 2, 1932

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    Quote Originally Posted by cliveh View Post
    Well I think film photographers should have their own fashion line and we could perhaps start with:-

    https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Ro...0Y%3B402%3B500
    Come on Clive: http://www.magforum.com/digital_manipulation5.htm and http://www.bbc.co.uk/photography/gen...odchenko.shtml

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    Quote Originally Posted by PKM-25 View Post
    Book publishing workshop in Brooklyn last Fall...
    And you didn't tell me! (Probably did and I was busy). Lol

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    I've noticed that the only place in CT that sold Lomography and Holga and Polaroid/Imposisble film brands (Urban Outfitters) has stopped carrying all of it

    This is another example that would lead the less knowledgeable to believe that film has "stopped being made".

    Also, all those that might have used tbe cameras they got there, no longer know where to go to get film...

    They don't know about B&H... Freestyle, etc.

    So this does cause an ebb in the sales arena... And there's is a casual effect and link between us and them and both our supply.

    I hope this gets resolved somehow.

    "The futures not set... There's no fate but what we make for ourselves..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneNYC View Post
    And you didn't tell me! (Probably did and I was busy). Lol
    Workshops are intense, this Fall in Acadia not so much so...

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