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    Quote Originally Posted by Photo Engineer View Post
    How many times do I have to say this?

    KODACHROME DEMAND WAS NEXT TO ZERO. IT WAS SPOILING ON THE SHELVES. Kodak abandoned it when it could no longer sell it. And, this trend began in about 1990 with the upsurge of E6 processing and the higher quality!

    Kodachrome was a round the clock operation in the early 90s, but fell off to one shift daily and then one day a week, then once a month and then once a year. Sales were terrible, in spite of ads. And yes, there were Kodachrome ads. I've posted one of the last futile Kodachrome efforts in the 90s.

    Good luck guys trying to turn this one back on Kodak but it was you guys, and you guys alone.

    PE
    Velvia killed Kodachrome on photo editors' light tables in the early 90s. No contest.

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    We know, we know, PE. People quit using Kodachrome when E6 surpassed it in jazzed up, over saturated, unrealistic gaudy color.

    I go back far enough to remember when Kodachrome was king of saturation and E4 films, and early E6 films, simply couldn't compete. Once they became good quality and selection expanded to offer garishness (like Velvia, IMHO, for many but not all subjects and lighting) Kodachrome with its unique look, archival resistance to dark fading and "realistic" pallette simply didn't appeal any more.

    Heck, I think E100G is pretty saturated and Astia was, both beautiful (though different) but pretty realistic, Provia is over the top for most of my subjects and tastes, and the only use I have for Velvia is to get colors that should be bright to pop on overcast days. I also love film and not digital. My tastes are clearly minority.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Photo Engineer View Post
    Good luck guys trying to turn this one back on Kodak but it was you guys, and you guys alone.
    Aaauuuugggghhh. Yikes, that hurts...

    [Ken just chopped off both of his hands to keep from typing.]



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    "When making a portrait, my approach is quite the same as when I am portraying a rock. I do not wish to impose my personality upon the sitter, but, keeping myself open to receive reactions from his own special ego, record this with nothing added: except of course when I am working professionally, when money enters in,—then for a price, I become a liar..."

    — Edward Weston, Daybooks, Vol. II, February 2, 1932

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    Quote Originally Posted by CGW View Post
    Surely you're joking, right?
    Do you know better? I'd be really keen to see some figures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomalophicon View Post
    Do you know better? I'd be really keen to see some figures.
    You first, dude. Check out the CIPA data sometime:

    http://www.cipa.jp/english/index.html
    Last edited by CGW; 10-10-2011 at 10:46 PM. Click to view previous post history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Nadvornick View Post
    Aaauuuugggghhh. Yikes, that hurts...

    [Ken just chopped off both of his hands to keep from typing.]



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    Don't bleed to death Ken!

    But, the truth is the truth. Kodak did not kill Kodachrome. Lack of sales to you customers killed it! That is the absolute truth.

    PE

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    Quote Originally Posted by CGW View Post
    You first, dude.
    I have no figures, that's why I wrote maybe.
    You seem surer than me though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomalophicon View Post
    I have no figures, that's why I wrote maybe.
    You seem surer than me though.
    Like I said, go digging on the CIPA site. I did.

    I don't think things went better for other makers than it did for Nikon:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/12/te...y/12nikon.html

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    from that ^ linked article
    "Digital photography has won out because its images are visible immediately and are easily stored on tiny computer chips, eliminating the need to carry and develop clunky rolls of film."

    clunky rolls of film LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Photo Engineer View Post
    Don't bleed to death Ken!
    *$@ggvoV374$&&#&HDBOg#g#()4HFH. HJF:likjDoO8&Y^^9bdb...

    &^$&%)hOBVdN=+)9*^%2fKNDKbK.^!!!

    &g$
    "When making a portrait, my approach is quite the same as when I am portraying a rock. I do not wish to impose my personality upon the sitter, but, keeping myself open to receive reactions from his own special ego, record this with nothing added: except of course when I am working professionally, when money enters in,—then for a price, I become a liar..."

    — Edward Weston, Daybooks, Vol. II, February 2, 1932



 

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