Agfa or Rollei films are still around with a large variety of b&w films, besides Ilford, efke ....
I just hope that Fuji continues with colored slide films. They (cosina) produce MF rangefinders, which only makes sense if they also produce film!
If they would stop, I hope somebody else would take over the business, probably at a smaller scale. Ilford first vanished and then reappeared....
You know - for all the angst and hand wringing we have been having here - when I talked to Keith Canham about a special film order just yesterday he reports that the best he can tell is that it is business as usual at Kodak.
Granted Keith isn't exactly on the board of directors at Kodak, but he talks to folks who would "be worried about their jobs" level several times a month.
Some years ago when I did a lot of work for Fuji I was in the same place. When Fuji was expanding or contracting I couldn't get explicit details, but it was easy to gather that people were bright and optimistic or foul and worried. You didn't have to be a psychiatrist to figure it out.
I can assure you that if looked like a sinking ship from the inside people would be fleeing in droves. Apparently that isn't happening. Not saying that they aren't polishing their resume just in case. But according to Keith there isn't any apparent internal panic.
So lets put just a little positive spin in this mix.
That's a financial woe for Kodak!
Fleeing? Fleeing to where? The unemployment rate is 9.1% not even counting those who have just given up looking for work.
Originally Posted by michaelbsc
I agree with staying (realistically) optimistic, in part because pessimism saps energy, but mostly because I have no educated reason to have an opinion on Kodak's true financial state. I have no street cred, no scuttlebutt and no massive holdings of EK shares that would make me privy to insider dumping or that have me receiving midnight phone calls from Kodak board members asking for my advice.
But I think it's safe to say if I'm going to keep buying Kodak film (and I bought 50 rolls of Tri-X and a bunch of D-76 just this week), it's going to be from a Kodak that looks quite a bit different from the Kodak I see today. I don't know what to think of that. I'm practical enough to say it's over when it's over and move to a different film but I'm human too and I've grown up with that red and yellow sign and those yellow boxes and the smell of those 'chromes. I remember learning to load my mom's Kodak Brownie and all that stuff that comes with branding. Perhaps a little irrationality is allowable here, even before there's legitimate reason for sadness.
Staying optimistic, for purely selfish reasons,
Well, fair enough I suppose. But for print developers there just isn't that much difference in my experience. I could even toss my LPD and my prints and their viewers would never know the difference.
Originally Posted by Michael R 1974
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It's been decades, well more than one decade anyway, since I tried Bromophen so I'll defer to that. Memory is a slippery thing sometimes.
Originally Posted by hpulley
I agree though, if I had to lose one I'd rather lose Kodak than Ilford, at least as long as the discussion is confined to black and white.
Not going to lose Kodak, there is too much money to be made from film,paper, etc sales.
Over to HP-5 in a heartbeat! I confess that Tri-X has been a favorite since time immemorial (it was the film we shot way back when in my student days), but, at least in part, much of the reason for the film's popularity had to be the availability of EK films. They were everywhere back in the day! I made the switch to Pan-F Plus and FP-4 as my medium format films of choice several years ago; adding HP-5 for my Leica food will be no great sacrifice...
Originally Posted by lensworker
The way the whole World's economy s are going on a downward spiral at the moment and no individuals or governments seem powerless to do anything about it is much more worrying to me than the state of Kodak's financial situation, because if it carry s on there will be many thousands of big companys going the same way.
I hope you are right - I'd hate for Tri-X to become extinct.
Originally Posted by fstop
A couple of years back, I attended a workshop taught by a well known Magnum photographer. I asked him what he regarded as the best B&W film for street & documentary photography. His reply was "Kodak Tri-X is the best B&W film of all time."
Given the undoubted millions of images this gent has made in his 60+ years of making photographs, his Magnum membership and the books he's had published, his evaluation of Tri-X made an impression on me.
I've been shooting Tri-X ever since and have yet to regret that choice.
"My idea of a good life is that I wake up in the morning, go out and look around and make four rolls of film a day." - Josef Koudelka
"There is only you and your camera. The limitations in your photography are in yourself, for what we see is what we are." - Ernst Haas
"Nothing happens when you sit at home. I always make it a point to carry a camera with me at all times…I just shoot at what interests me at that moment." – Elliott Erwitt