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    According to Kodak ads, the Verifax could sit on your secretary's desk so it would save you all the expense of her travel time.

    I'd see that argument working quite well in the Mad Men days.

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    wasn't that long that Ilford went through bankruptcy and restructuring. I'd say bankruptcy is preferable to an IP fire sale. Death and rebirth ... if there is a rebirth.
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    Their film business is still very profitable. They will re-emerge just fine. I've been shooting Kodak all year to do my part for the company. I love Tmax 400 and Ektachrome too much to see it all go away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by j-dogg View Post
    Their film business is still very profitable. They will re-emerge just fine. I've been shooting Kodak all year to do my part for the company. I love Tmax 400 and Ektachrome too much to see it all go away.
    "Film, Photofinishing and Entertainment Group third-quarter sales were $389 million, a 10% decline from the year-ago quarter, driven by continuing industry-related volume declines. Third-quarter earnings from operations for the segment were $15 million, compared with earnings of $28 million in the year-ago period. This decrease in earnings was primarily driven by significantly increased raw material costs, particularly silver, and industry-related declines in volumes, largely offset by cost reductions and price actions across the segment."

    It's not the margins that are the concern. It's the rapid and far-from-done decline of gross revenues.

    There are virtually no new film caress manufactured in any volume. The same now for motion picture equipment. Film sales will follow that dynamic, existing off old stock and inventory in decline. eBay and the Classifieds here cannot keep emulsion plants capitalized. Kodak, Ilford, will not have credit extended for anything under that outcome.

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    But Ilford's profits are rising...

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    Quote Originally Posted by j-dogg View Post
    They will re-emerge just fine.
    Wonder if these stakeholders feel the same?


    "Advisers told Kodak a filing would make its patent sale easier and likely allow the company to command a higher price, people familiar with the matter have said. The obligation to cover pension and health-care costs for retirees could also be purged through bankruptcy proceedings, the people said."


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    I can't understand some of the people here sometimes. It's like we have some members who *want* to see Kodak or other film manufacturers fail at selling film.
    Stop worrying about grain, resolution, sharpness, and everything else that doesn't have a damn thing to do with substance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clayne View Post
    I can't understand some of the people here sometimes. It's like we have some members who *want* to see Kodak or other film manufacturers fail at selling film.
    Just like auto racing, people find crashes to be the most exciting part. An orderly race from green to checkered flag is no fun to watch...
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