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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick Fagan View Post
    appears that inkjet prints are acceptable.
    tolerated in the interest of education and sharing.

    And Mick, you're not going to include your time into those $/print calcs are you? I've toyed with the idea of doing this but soon realise I don't get to spend any time doing anything i want to do so the idea oftaking on other peoples work is a bit silly! Maybe when my kids leave the nest!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick Fagan View Post
    $15.00 NZ is very cheap for a commercially produced 8x10" print, do the maths carefully and think how you would print a stranger's negative and what exactly it would cost you in time, materials, leaving some room for a modest profit.

    In my opinion at that cost, there is no profit, that is a very cheap price.

    If you are talking more than one identical print from the negative, as in 10 or more copies, then the $15.00 per print for 10 or more, would be more like it.

    I usually take three sheets of paper to make what I call a commercial standard print from a customer's negative. The first sheet is used up getting correct density, or what I believe is correct density, as well as close to ideal contrast. The second is a full print with what I believe is correct, the third is usually commercial quality, not best possible quality, but commercial quality.

    $15.00 NZ is starting to look cheap, don't you think?

    Mick.
    Yeah, it's something like $20 or $25 for a single print, $15 for multiples. I haven't gotten around to using her services yet so can't say what the results are like. I must dig some negs out and get her to print them up

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    prints are packed, and will be in the post tomorrow

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    I would expect to pay around $25 for standard commercial quality/custom B&W 8X10 print on RC paper, and then less for each additional print.

    As Mick Fagan said - in a commercial darkroom it is actually harder to make a good B&W print than it is a good color print. Color is far easier - you need to get the color and density right - you rarely burn on dodge standard commercial color prints.

    Printing B&W it can take anything from 2-5 sheets of paper to get a good print - just depends how hard the neg is to print, and the look you are after..

    I was a professional photographic printer for around 1/2 of the time I've worked in the photographic industry (cominu up to 27 years now..), and have printed using most processes used commercially (EP2, RA4, R14, Cibachrome, plus processed most film types - C41, C22, E6 - plus B&W processing and printing using both fiber and RC papers).

    We have always embraced new technologies - I remember when Type 8 Agfa color paper came out - you didin't get a color/density shift when you changed magnifications! What an time saving.. So was RA4 - 4 minutes to process a print - down from 10 (or 12?) minutes of EP2..

    I don't know why anyone would complain about accepting an inkjet print, but then accept a Frontier print?

    A Frontier (or other commercial lab) print may be on photographic paper, but it's printed digitally from a scanned file (your negative) via a laser (or LEDs in the case of some large format printers..)

    To me APUG is about having fun, and keeping people shooting old cameras that use film (negative or slide, black and white or color) - how you make the final prints is up to you and the facilities you have available to you...

    Sorry to be so long winded.....
    A camera is only a black box with a hole in it....

    my blog...some film, some digital http://andrewk1965.wordpress.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew K View Post
    ......
    Sorry to be so long winded.....
    You obviously haven't read the thread - Prints Vs Negative Scans! I gave up reading and responding 20 pages ago!

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    no I didn't read it......

    What can I say - don't have that much time at work to read every post :-)
    A camera is only a black box with a hole in it....

    my blog...some film, some digital http://andrewk1965.wordpress.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew K View Post
    no I didn't read it......

    What can I say - don't have that much time at work to read every post :-)
    Haha! I would be....FIRED if I tried

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    hey guys, just a quick update, I'm missing 3 sets of prints, and I've PM'd those who haven't submitted.

    TK

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    I see a bit of a negative reaction to my frontier prints in this thread. If I have offended any of you by doing this please accept my apologies and feel free to ignore my print...

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    Have not offended me Chris, I'll look forward to seeing it.



 

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