Civilized? Canada? Don't go to a hockey game there!
Ireland? Civilized? Ahhhh well, what can I say?
Canada is perfectly civilized, we don't kill our criminals and we aren't slaves to our health care providers. I missed the on my initial message Nice to see your still around PE, was winter in Rochester as nice as it was here???
OTOH, do NOT EVER try to put ECN through a minilab. You will ruin the process and any film that goes through it until it is taken apart, cleaned, and re-charged with chemistry.
Or for that matter, Kodachrome.
“Photography is a complex and fluid medium, and its many factors are not applied in simple sequence. Rather, the process may be likened to the art of the juggler in keeping many balls in the air at one time!”
Ansel Adams, from the introduction to The Negative - The New Ansel Adams Photography Series / Book 2