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    hi paul

    sounds like you folks did a great job
    100% agreement that reputable dealers
    and shippers and buyers are " the real deal "
    and pro-color, b/w, and consumer color are all different fish ...

    i guess it all boils down to if you trust how it was stored + shipped.
    and if someone is an unknown, well ... " stored in freezer for 7 years "
    could just be a selling slogan ... kind of like a used care salesman
    suggesting a car is a "cream-puff" or " just driven on sundays to church by a little old lady"

    john

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    For home storage, how much difference in effectiveness is there between refrigerating and freezing? Say, for several months or up to a couple years?

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    A couple of years.

    Refrigeration may give protection for up to 5 years beyond expiration, but freezing might provide 10 years or more. This is just a generalization because it varies so much from film to film.

    Ilford, Fuji and Kodak films keep better than others, and B&W films are better than color. Slow films are better than fast films.

    PE

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    Thanks, PE!

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    well i passed. i agree about why waste the potential of a great photo to save $4?

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    Sometimes I shoot films that I know are going to come out with a HUGE color shift just for the fun of it, the chems are cheap enough to do so. I've gotten a few cool shots, like this one http://500px.com/photo/8342369 it was shot on super expired sensia, I love how it came out!
    Everybody has a photographic memory, some just don't have film.
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    To my untrained eyes, the picture looks pretty good. A little faded and what appears to be lighter than the slide films I am used to (Velvia,Provia), but overall it looks good.

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    I've had mixed luck - mainly good - with expired color film. I have some Agfa Optima expired 2003 that I know was always refrigerated, because I owned it since new - it's as good as new. I have Fuji NPS 160, allegedly cold stored and expired in 2005, that has lost half its speed and is grainy. Some Ferrania 200 ASA that I believe expired in 1987 and is remarkably good. EXR 200T that expired circa 1997 and as good as new. Yes, black and white is a whole other story - I have Ilford stock expired in 1964 - yes, 1964 - and if I shoot at 50ASA instead of the rated 100ASA, you'd think it was manufactured yesterday. I suspect the real issue with what you are looking at is likely whether it really was cold stored. If so, if you have a problem it is more likely to be speed loss than uncontrollable color shift.

    Bottom line -- how it was stored is hugely important.

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    What can I say? I just shot a roll of Verichrome Pan - 127 that expired in 1986.

    No fog, no pattern from the backing paper, and no loss of filmspeed....

    from experience I've found it depends on the brand/film you want to use..

    And out of date slide film is no problem - just shoot it and process it to make black and white negs...no worries about funny color shifts then....
    A camera is only a black box with a hole in it....

    my blog...some film, some digital http://andrewk1965.wordpress.com/

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