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    Unidentified Film Object : anybody helps ?

    Hi all,

    I found a set of old cameras at a "garage" sale, and I was surprised to found a film still in one of them, a nice Walz Envoy M35.
    Here is the roll :

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    It's obviously an very old Ferrania dia film. But I have some questions :
    - Is this emulsion can be processed by modern E6 chemistry ? (or it's E4 ?)
    - Is there any chance to salvage some pictures ? I presume the latent image long gone ago, or the camera opened during all theses years, but I am curious !

    Many thanks,

    Best Regards,

    Raphael

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    Hi,

    just give it to the lab for E6 developing and see if there is anything there . You could get some nice "time traveling" photos.

    cheers,

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    Get a clip test - the lab processes a few frames. You can assess those results to know how to proceed.

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    Probably E4, I doubt if you would get any colour out of it, the dyes are most probably long since gone, but might be worth trying processing it as black and white, you have nothing to lose and might get something,

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    It's worth saving the old casette, too. As I remember, Ferrania was a pretty nice film, I tried it on a trip to Italy in the late 70s and might even have some slides still.

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    That's one beautiful cassette.
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkosaric View Post
    Hi,

    just give it to the lab for E6 developing and see if there is anything there . You could get some nice "time traveling" photos.

    cheers,
    It's not E6...that would ruin anything on the film, and could contaminate the lab's chemicals. I think it's one of the post-war films based on the old Agfa color chemistry. One of the specialist labs could handle it, e.g. http://www.processc22.webs.com/TextInfosheet.txt

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    Quote Originally Posted by railwayman3 View Post
    It's not E6...that would ruin anything on the film, and could contaminate the lab's chemicals. I think it's one of the post-war films based on the old Agfa color chemistry. One of the specialist labs could handle it, e.g. http://www.processc22.webs.com/TextInfosheet.txt
    That is pretty expensive for a possible empty film. Maybe it is best just to develop it in Rodinal or some other B&W developer at home?

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    A little digging around suggest that Ferrania "Dia 28" film is mid-1960's vintage.
    Some other digging around suggests that E-3 wasn't phased out until 1974, so that almost certainly makes it E-3 if it's not a Kodachrome-type film

    So I would guess your best bet is to process as B&W.

    FYI--In digging around, I came across this document:
    http://www.kodak.com/global/en/profe...111/cis111.pdf

    Which provides instructions on how to scratch-mix E-4

    --Greg

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    If it is E4 or earlier, then it will ruin the E6 process as the film emulsion will come off the support at the high E6 process temperature.

    PE

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