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    This comes up every now and again, i have yet to have seen any manufacturer instructions for any C-41 (or e-6 for that matter) that call for pre soaking, i know of no commercial machine that presoaks either.
    Why do people do this?

    Some years ago, someone taught me how to make perfect rice - they said: "read and follow the instructions".

    I guess thats good advice to anything in life that comes with a manual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by krifartida View Post
    This comes up every now and again, i have yet to have seen any manufacturer instructions for any C-41 (or e-6 for that matter) that call for pre soaking, i know of no commercial machine that presoaks either.
    Why do people do this?

    Some years ago, someone taught me how to make perfect rice - they said: "read and follow the instructions".

    I guess thats good advice to anything in life that comes with a manual.
    My Jobo manual tells me to pre-soak. So, which manual do you listen to?

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    I also have never presoaked a film. What is the point?

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    To bring the tank and reel up to 100F so as not to chill the developer.
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    I would have thought that ingress of developer into a water soaked emulsion would be more variable in displacement terms than that of developer ingress to a dry emulsion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by krifartida View Post
    Some years ago, someone taught me how to make perfect rice - they said: "read and follow the instructions".

    I guess thats good advice to anything in life that comes with a manual.
    The closer I get to doing it per the instruction the better I like my developing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Cherry View Post
    My Jobo manual tells me to pre-soak. So, which manual do you listen to?
    I follow Kodak's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Cherry View Post
    My Jobo manual tells me to pre-soak. So, which manual do you listen to?
    The one that comes with the chemistry i use
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    The Tetenal Press Kit says to pre wash. The only time I didn't pre wash I got streaking on some of my film. Don't know if it was because I didn't prewash or what? - just saying is all. I will try the same tank with a prewash next time and see. I wondered it the tank took too long to fill- about 10-15 seconds.

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    The Jobo and Fuji instructions say to prewash when doing rotary development because it will get the reels up to temperature and give you more even development. You can preheat dry but it would take as long as the process as a whole.

    You also don't risk getting uneven development from dribbles if you presoak.

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