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    Quote Originally Posted by Photo Engineer View Post
    And the economy in OZ is better?

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    That too I guess, never really noticed any kind of recession effects myself, not sure we technically even had one.

    But minimum wage is not too bad to live off independently here, rent, food, bills, travel is covered, with a decent amount left over with to save or play around with.

    I remember in 2008, I managed to save up enough to go to Stockholm and back in my semester break during uni for 4 weeks.

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    The economy in AU is far, far better than in the US and EU. We had a bit of a blip around 2008-09 but no big recession, no banking crisis, no real-estate crash (we're down by about 10% off 2010 when I bought but not the huge bubble-burst that the US had). Our only real drawback (and again, this is due to our solid economy) is that the AUD is overvalued which is hurting local manufacturers/exporters and that's the natural macroeconomic negative-feedback loop in action.

    There are of course plenty of people saying that AU will suffer from loss of mining exports that China is slowing. They may or may not be right but for now, the AU population and economy are incredibly well-off by current world standards.


    PS welcome to the first-world and having healthcare

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    Quote Originally Posted by polyglot View Post
    The economy in AU is far, far better than in the US and EU. We had a bit of a blip around 2008-09 but no big recession, no banking crisis, no real-estate crash (we're down by about 10% off 2010 when I bought but not the huge bubble-burst that the US had). Our only real drawback (and again, this is due to our solid economy) is that the AUD is overvalued which is hurting local manufacturers/exporters and that's the natural macroeconomic negative-feedback loop in action.

    There are of course plenty of people saying that AU will suffer from loss of mining exports that China is slowing. They may or may not be right but for now, the AU population and economy are incredibly well-off by current world standards.


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    I had access to a lot of heavy market research documents ($ thousands per document), a lot of those guys are simply crying foul, like Gerry Harvey on TV saying how bad things are all the time, they make shit loads and have anti-competitive practises.

    Reality is, car parts and snow boards that are made here, are cheaper for Australian consumer to buy from a U.S. retailer + shipping (that has had shipping from AU + markup and tax added on) that still sometimes come in half the price then buying from supposed "wholesale" here.

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    WHile we are vastly off topic - I often thank my forefathers for having the foresight to come to Australia back in the mid 1800's - Apparently, they had a choice of 3 - North America, South America or Australia.....I think they chose very well.

    Now, what where we talking about again?

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    While the $260 is high, i do agree that its a realistic price and doesnt surprise me that its this high, personally i could not justify spending that much because im not a professional photographer, and feel i would be wasting my money on crap photographs, however i really want to shoot kodachrome because ive missed out, if i get better at my photography and find a good camera that i can trust, then, im happy to process one of my 24exp films, but i do agree that if we can get more interested persons, to get the cost down, as im sure a bigger batch of rolls would be cheaper to process at once, rather than a handful at a time, i would be all in to pay up front for anything like this, as long as i would get a refund if it all fell through, if everyone payed upfront, Steve would know how many have committed and get the price right.

    Should we talk to Kittlegraphy first, and see if its possible to re-create this process in his K-lab or is Steve's hand process more reliable?
    I would also want to know how accurate the colours would be with this process is i was going to pay so much too, if the results look the same as how k-14 film came out, then i dont have any problems, wither way im happy to wait until something gets sorted out thats reliable, ive sold 10 rolls on ebay for a crazy price, so people are serious about processing this stuff...

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    Re: Future Kodachrome Colour Developing

    I really doubt a k-lab can be properly operated - other than testing the mechanics and software - for fewer than a hundred rolls. Maybe two hundred. But I might be totally wrong.

    But for a hundred rolls you could probably cut the cost 50% or maybe a little more.

    Pretend for a minute that you "can" run 100 rolls at $100 each. How much stock is out there? And how much would actually go for that reduced rate?

    That's a prolab rate, not a hobby market rate. And the pros have all gone mostly digital.

    And what if my educated guess is wrong by 20% on both - a real possibility - so the k-lab needs 120 rolls at $120 each.

    Remember that Kodak freely released all the patents and knowledge required to the public domain many years ago. So for free no one picked up the ball.
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    well i do agree with you somewhat.
    We still have this k-lab that is not running and am unsure of its progress.
    At the same time we have Steve in Australia who appears to be the only one who successfully has processed the film, whereas the k-lab is not, perhaps more effort should be made to help streamline the process steve has currently been using, or else should we try the k-lab option, we still dont know how close to k-14 Steve's process is, perhaps its better? i dont know, but the results look pretty darn good either way.

    I like the idea of sharing a camera and taking a couple of photos each and splitting the costs that way, either way, there are people serious about shooting kodachrome film, i sold some rolls on ebay for a packet and i still have 5 rolls in my freezer, i have been ironically shooting E6 and love it, i have a small stockpile of ektachrome film which im happy with, but want the opportunity to shoot kodachrome.

    There is this film maker in the US who shot a film on the space shuttle on kodachrome which needs to be processed as not all his rolls got shot in time before dwaynes closed, Steve should be able to help in this department hopefully too.

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    There are at least 2 or 3 people who have gotten reasonable results with home processing of Kodachrome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stephen Frizza View Post
    I can do it, I currently have a small amount of chemistry left and to process more film in the future would need to buy additional chemicals.
    I posted this as a way of guaging interest, and it is good to see there is a little bit out there. Though the idea of shooting on kodachrome for the sake of "One last time"
    doesn't seem justified to me. If someone wanted me to go to all the effort of processing the material I would want to see previous work they had done and know the history of the roll they are wanting me to process and also why its justified I go to the effort of doing this. The price I posted is not a price I would profit from. surprisingly doing it as $260 a roll I make a small loss but it is the absolute bone cutting minimum for doing this process at of 2012. If I do decide to do it as a one off thing I will make it very public knowledge and give a future date as to when the one time process will occur.
    Perhaps there are a few of us who could get together with a roll each to make up the minimum necessary quantity? I don't know if my roll is even compatible with Stephen's process though, and if it were, it's a roll of Kodachrome 200 that has been sitting in my parents' freezer for a year or more after exposure. I would imagine this would make the process exponentially more difficult. The photos are of little value to anyone else, but they are photos of my nephew when he was about 1 year old, so the value is certainly there for me.

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    If you had read this thread, you would find that there are many similar offers.

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