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    ANYONE WANT 500T re-spooled for 35mm shooting? Support these guys!

    Just thought I'd give a shout-out to my new buddies, Brandon and Brendon(twins dontya know!).

    They're the eyes behind http://www.thebrotherswright.com/bwrightphoto/ and http://www.twinlenslife.com/

    They've been using Kodak's 500T 35mm motion picture film to shoot with in their Nikon F3's, equipped with the 33ft(250shot) backs, primarily for wedding photography(they tag team!!!)

    Anyhow, they've been working day and night to perfect their process of the remjet-removal process so that they(and eventually YOU) can use the film in standard c-41 processing chems. Even though the film wasn't originally "designed" for C-41(its an ECN-2 process), but they've found it works very well, and have had much sucess with their technique after much trial and error(on THEIR dime too!)

    so, if you want to support their effort, feel free to contact them on Facebook:

    http://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswright?fref=ts

    they've started a group "Film Shooters" on Facebook too, a great place to congregate and coordinate!

    http://www.facebook.com/groups/187350187969045/

    here's their Etsy page, they're still in "gearing up mode" acquiring orders, but their goal is to make this wonderfully capable film available regularly at reasonable costs.

    http://www.etsy.com/shop/cinestill



    cheers,

    Dan

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    careful so you don't wind up like these guys...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seattle_FilmWorks

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    ECN-2 in C-41 will lack long term stability. PE has talked about this many times here as the ECN-2 discussion comes around every couple of months or so.

    Just cos it "works" doesn't mean it works well.

    J.

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    ECN-2 chem is inexpensive for the bulk you get, given the prices those guys are charging for their service, and the impression people who've gone through them have, I would recommend to learn to DIY.

    For what it's worth, Portra 400 is a whole lot better than 5219 500T imho.
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    Hey guys,

    I dont know about your dealings with these guys(if it was the Wright brothers here in LA you're referring too) personally, but all of my interactions both through the net, and IN PERSON(yes I've talked with them in person multiple times) have been very positive, and they've been very excited about this project they're working on. They're currently designing a machine to remove the remjet backing from the film prior to re-spooling, so ECN-2 processing isn't 'required' per se, but the film can be processed in any standard c-41 machine/lab, apparently w/o any affect on the chemistry(or so they've stated to me, I'm not a chemist, so don't take my word as absolute truth).

    So basically,DON'T KILL THE MESSENGER(aka ME!!!)

    With anything, I recommend you do your own research before laying down your own cash if you choose to do so.

    I dont shoot 35mm film much anymore, since most of my photography is LF based.

    I posted this so all of you who b*tch about rising film costs might have some film to feed your cameras, Kodak film that is...

    Im not connected with the Wright brothers in any way, other than getting to know them over the past few interactions I've had with them as already stated.

    Pax,

    Dan

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    Athiril,

    I'm posting this too as an individual. The Wright brothers(they're not connected with InsideAnalogPhoto or anyone else that I know of, just by themselves) are basically going to be doing the removal of the Remjet backing prior to re-spooling(or outsourcing the re-spooling to someone like Ilford, from 2000ft master rolls of 500T), and after re-spooling, would be selling the film to consumers.

    If you read through their blog, they've done numerous postings about their various testing procedures.

    I'm not trying to push any service here, just passing along some information. Sounds like YOU have an axe to grind, I have no part of that.

    Just trying to help get Kodak film into people's hands so they can continue to shoot quality color stock. I have no benefit from this at all, other than hopefully that warm fuzzy feeling knowing some can choose Kodak(as I do for my 8x10 shooting, despite the cost). I don't see many people who show the dedication these guys seem to have shown, with regard to their photography.

    Cheers,

    Dan

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    Is there nobody here on APUG with a connection to Kodak that could throw some facts on c41 processing of this film, and how the pre-exposure remjet removal possibly affects the emulsion positive/negative etc. ?

    I love the colors of this film, and have been thinking about purchasing a cheap big roll on ebay and roll myself, but couldn't find anyone in europe that does small scale development, so if there's actually someone removing the remjet, making dev possible in a more standard fashion, if the price is right I'd be totally up for this!

    http://street-photos.net/ | http://felinik.com/ | http://www.facebook.com/jf.felinik

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    ANYONE WANT 500T re-spooled for 35mm shooting? Support these guys!

    These aren't the ecn-2.com people. Unfortunately those people got scammed.


    Quote Originally Posted by Athiril View Post
    Hi,

    Have you considered paying for advertising on APUG instead? Because this sounds like a shill/plug/free advertising scheme by going through someone else to me.

    Just FEI; These are the guys that privately asked me over the course of several months back about the ECN-2 process, I pointed out the misinformation on their website about the ECN-2 process, and was silenced on the facebook group, I've also been insulted and abused, and have been threatened with defamation law suits from those guys for reposting the rubbish they have said to me.


    In regards to the business;
    "We really should have taken him to court. We had a solid case. I think 3 people got scans back, 2 got negs. But so many bought film that will never be processed . Worthless. Scam. Money down the drain." - http://instagram.com/p/NhtL6mPTUb/

    Also here - https://twitter.com/jonathancanlas/s...96537525137409
    https://www.facebook.com/insideanalo...ent_id=5404312

    In regards to the photo, notice how they didn't even line up the bulk lid tab to the film exit area.



    ECN-2 chem is inexpensive for the bulk you get, given the prices those guys are charging for their service, and the impression people who've gone through them have, I would recommend to learn to DIY.

    For what it's worth, Portra 400 is a whole lot better than 5219 500T imho.


    Regardless, before jumping on board with a product and business, do your homework about them.


    Google is also reporting to me that ecn-2.com (their main site, apparently) is a reported attack site - "Malicious software includes 3 scripting exploit(s)." don't know what that's about. As well all the link's (except contact) are 404'ing. I would not call this reliable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felinik View Post
    Is there nobody here on APUG with a connection to Kodak that could throw some facts on c41 processing of this film, and how the pre-exposure remjet removal possibly affects the emulsion positive/negative etc. ?

    I love the colors of this film, and have been thinking about purchasing a cheap big roll on ebay and roll myself, but couldn't find anyone in europe that does small scale development, so if there's actually someone removing the remjet, making dev possible in a more standard fashion, if the price is right I'd be totally up for this!

    PE has gone into great detail about ECN-2 film vs C-41. I'm not sure if he is a current chemist at Kodak or retired, but he is very knowledgeable about the processes and he has stated many times that ECN-2 film processed in C-41 is not stable. If you do a quick search you will find that he has a lot to say about this topic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by madgardener View Post
    PE has gone into great detail about ECN-2 film vs C-41. I'm not sure if he is a current chemist at Kodak or retired, but he is very knowledgeable about the processes and he has stated many times that ECN-2 film processed in C-41 is not stable. If you do a quick search you will find that he has a lot to say about this topic.
    PE is retired.

    J.

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