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    ECN process with the green base makes for difficult and goofy color prints and grainy B&W prints. B&W develop & fix results in heavy base fog. I was curious and tried the mixed and separate developing and was surprised at the results. The B&W (almost no color) negatives print well on B&W paper, like B&W film should. The color result has significant grain when printed on B&W paper. I don't want to toss the film, just trying to make good use of it and in the process got one result that I expected, (color) and in the other, almost no color but with a useful B&W image where there should not be any.

    Both of these results were exposed at full rated speed of iso 500, plus I have very wide exposure latitude, from 32 to 6400 (on the camera dial) on the same roll with acceptable negatives. Green as they are, they print like Illford XP1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cruzingoose View Post
    ECN process with the green base makes for difficult and goofy color prints and grainy B&W prints. B&W develop & fix results in heavy base fog.
    I think the problem is your very expired film stock. I use film (Kodak Vision, Fuji Eterna), not older than 5 years and there is no grain, no fog and no color cast.
    But if your process works for you, it is okay.
    On the other side, ECN-2 film stock is mostly offered so cheap that it is not worth to use bad film.

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    Reala 500D does not have a green base - it's orange like other films. It could be that something has affected the film, or it could be your ECN-2 processing. Reala 500D was introduced in 2001 and discontinued in 2011, if that is what you have it might not be that old, but who knows how it was kept.

    I had a long thread on here a while back about ECN2 processing that might be helpful. I did find that certain tweaks to the formula helped me with small tank processing.

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    My thought on the green base, if your process is hinting at a reversal process the base would go green.
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    For what it's worth, here's one of my test shots on the Reala 500D that I have, developed ECN-2
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    ECN film

    7 years ago when I got this film it did have an orange base and printed well, but in the move to SD it was boxed and recently re-discovered. The garage can get very warm out here and 110 deg is not uncommon. I'm sure I killed the film, but I just hate to throw almost 400' of it away. If I can use it as B&W or Lomo Color, I consider it salvageable. Perhaps in Germany, ECN is cheap, but I have not seen 35mm anything at 7 cents a foot or less in a very long time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cruzingoose View Post
    7 years ago when I got this film it did have an orange base and printed well, but in the move to SD it was boxed and recently re-discovered. The garage can get very warm out here and 110 deg is not uncommon. I'm sure I killed the film, but I just hate to throw almost 400' of it away. If I can use it as B&W or Lomo Color, I consider it salvageable. Perhaps in Germany, ECN is cheap, but I have not seen 35mm anything at 7 cents a foot or less in a very long time.
    I use old ECN2 film for B&W reversal. Will post my results in the technical gallery over the weekend. But I have to admit my film while stored in a shed it does not see north of 102degF. But has seen 4 warm summers and is still good.

    It also develops as a good negative image when developed in Caffenol.



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