*more grain. Faster emulsions have more grain.
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The Provia here does look quite cool; E6 films can display this in specific light conditions e.g. outdoors in shade with bright sun; you may benefit from adding filtration like a light warming filter (81B), which will also impart a bit more warmth into the flesh tones. Outdoors in bright to diffuse light, Provia is quite a natural looking film, but will show its E6 pedigree in conditions of mixed light.
Velvia's ruddiness is quite offputting for portraiture, but it's an individual thing; nothing stopping people from introducing an element of Vaudeville. It's not showing any detail in darker areas as well as Provia — this is one of the bigger differences between the two films: Provia is very agreeable to exposure in a much greater range of conditions than Velvia with it's narrow latitude and poor rendition of detail in as much as —0.3 to —0.6 stop underexposure. You may wish to experiment with a warming filter for these portraiture involving mixed light, or ambient with artificial light.
I must ask as a matter of cautionary interest: what have you been doing at the scanning step of the transparencies?
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Provia 100F is my standard color film. I can't really speak to the others, except that the small amount of Provia 400 I've shot seemed generally similar, but a little warmer-balanced and of course with more grain. (E.g., https://www.flickr.com/photos/ntenny/5109364992/, though obviously it's hard to judge color balance from one uncontrolled image.)
I assume the underexposed shot is pretty dense-looking to the eye and you compensated in digital after scanning, right? I find the results are a little unpredictable in that process, depending I suppose on the lighting---in sunlight it often skews magenta rather than blue, in my experience.
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I used to shoot Kodachrome at 1/3 underexposure. E.g., K64 at ISO 80. It gave improved saturation and the slight boost in shutter speed was often helpful.
I've always shot E6 at box speed, though, and been happy with the results. These days I shoot mostly Provia and Velvia, probably a 2:1 ratio between the two. I was pleasantly surprised to see the results you've gotten from underexposing your Provia, however. Good detail in the shadow areas still, for the most part. And the softer color saturation I find quite appealing in your first photo.
I'm not sure I understand your exposure rating, however. Did you really underexpose it by 1-1/2 stops? That's an awful lot. I could see maybe 1/2 stop. So what was the ISO rating you used?
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Provia 400X and Velvia 100 are my favorite slide films, together with Astia which is now discontinued. Yes, Provia 400X is more grainy than the others but it is still a very fine grained 400 ISO slide film (the finest of all!). Its color reproduction is very accurate still the slides have a punchy and crispy look to them. Contrast is not overly problematic. This film is very suitable for pushing. I pushed it to ISO 800 with very good results, though it became a bit more contrasty then. I have also seen pictures made with ISO 1250 or 1600 and they were fine, though somewhat dull and grainy. At ISO 800 it was hardly discernible from ISO 400.
Velvia 100 is my main film for landscapes. Great punchy colors and sharpness, very fine grain. Colors look accurate to me, but they are enhanced. From what I´ve read this film does not alter skin tones as extremely as Velvia 50, which often gave a sunburnt look, but I have never shot Velvia 50 myself.
Sorry, more grain! That is what I meant.
Originally Posted by okto
I used epson scan and scanned the film as positives. The slides look similar to what I have posted. The actual underexposed slides are dense but I didn't really mess with the color saturation or tempertures very much. I just tweaked the levels to remove a bit of the cast. Oh and I just noticed that you wrote mixed light in your reply. To clarify, this is all natural window light.
Originally Posted by Poisson Du Jour
I think I was quite lucky as I got just the right amount of shadow detail to make me happy. With the slides that I have shot, they either look properly exposed or completely off and so I think that you might be right in your assessment that my exposure is actuully 1/2 stop and not 1 stop off. I just finished a roll of b&w and used the same settings without remetering. When I metered after finishing my first roll of Provia, I needed another stop (I only look at whole stops).
Originally Posted by cooltouch
Window light is very bluish because most of it comes from the sky. Provia (like most color films) is balanced for direct sunlight. Toss a warming or skylight filter on and you should see more natural results.
Originally Posted by msbarnes