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    Yes, they do. And it's a very good one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattKing View Post
    Ilford does have a film distribution network set up, and finishing and packaging equipment.

    So if they wanted to partner with a manufacturer .....
    Ilford's distribution world-wide is excellent, I switched back to Ilford films after a break of about 20 years because I just couldn't buy Tmax easily when travelling. What suprised me was Ilford films were readily available but so were Foma.

    It wouldn't be the first time Ilford partnered with another company, they had links with Konica/Sakura and manufactured some films for Fuji.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Smith View Post
    It's not colour, but Ilford currently have a C41 process film.


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    Do you mean the BWC-41 they have? or something else I'm not aware of?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneNYC View Post
    Do you mean the BWC-41 they have?
    Yes. XP2.

    I was wondering if the fact that it was C41 meant they were close to having colour capability or if the colour part adds a lot of extra complexity.

    It obviously does but are they over half way there already with a C41 film?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Smith View Post
    Yes. XP2.

    I was wondering if the fact that it was C41 meant they were close to having colour capability or if the colour part adds a lot of extra complexity.

    It obviously does but are they over half way there already with a C41 film?


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    Interesting thought. It might have been a forethought in the event the others fall that they do actually have the capability to amp up on color rather quickly being they are already making C-41.

    Sadly I don't use that film, it's not that I don't like the look from what I've seen, it's that I don't like C-41 color chemistry doing it all myself, and I don't really use labs to process my stuff... ah well...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Nadvornick View Post
    For a thread titled Ilford Color Film? I'm mildly surprised that Simon has not yet shown up here to gently slap some sense into us. Being able to tell us "no way, no how, not now, not ever" and then have us all profusely thank him afterward for that response is quite the unique skill he possesses. And uses to great effect. Perhaps he is on holiday?



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    Ilford have already stated they have no intention of entering the colour film market again. However it's worth noting that some of their senior management have Patents etc in the colour field, As Steve Smith points out they do make XP-2 which is essentially a colour emulsion although it's a B&W C41 process film.

    Ilford have a niche market for their B&W materials, they tried re-ententing the colour market with rebranded films the idea being to build up sales to a level where it might be economic to begin manufacture but competion was too strong.

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    WOW 13 pages and I got the first reply posted to my email account today? What hap to the subscription feature?

    Thanks for all the feedback. Just wish it would have come in on a timely fashion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Nadvornick View Post
    For a thread titled Ilford Color Film? I'm mildly surprised that Simon has not yet shown up here to gently slap some sense into us. Being able to tell us "no way, no how, not now, not ever" and then have us all profusely thank him afterward for that response is quite the unique skill he possesses. And uses to great effect. Perhaps he is on holiday?



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    Why is that? Maybe you can take over for him and give me the Simon rundown. Is he a pure BW devotee? Or does he want Ilford to not get sidetracked?

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    Since I just got notified of a single reply, I didn't have time to read all 13 pages. But it sounds like Ilford was not capable of making a competitive color film with Kodak. Was that the issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Grant View Post
    As Steve Smith points out they do make XP-2 which is essentially a colour emulsion although it's a B&W C41 process film.
    My dim and distant memory seems to recall that this was a collaboration with Fujifilm.

    Not sure if this is true as it was on Wikipedia. Interesting if it is true.

    Ilford produces a similar film known as XP2 Super. Fuji markets a third film called Neopan 400CN, which is also manufactured by Ilford.

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